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Mikey32



Member Since: 10 Jun 2016
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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Zermatt Silver
Another Air Suspension Question

Hi.

For a little while, shortly after starting off, I received the dreaded 'Bong' sound, followed up by, 'Suspension Fault. Normal Height Only' message on the dashboard.

From other posts here, it seems this message is not exactly unknown, and replacement of the air compressor effects a cure. So a new compressor was ordered.

Here, I should mention the vehicle is MY 2007, and has the Hitachi compressor fitted.

Having fitted the replacement compressor, I am disappointed to find the situation is exactly the same. Same 'Bong', same message.

I do have the Gap IID tool, and after having cleared the previously stored faults, the fault log now shows;

'RLM-Suspension
• C1A20-64 (6C) Pressure increases too slow when filling reservoir - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure'. Which if I've interpreted this correctly, means the system is reporting that the pump is not pumping enough.

The vehicle does not appear to 'lose' height overnight, or indeed over weeks, so I don't think there is a leak anywhere.

I see that the pressure in the 'Gallery', (is this the reservoir ?), is shown as being 39.2 psi, but I have no idea if this is significant.

Of course, there is a possibility the new replacement pump is faulty, but before I complain to the supplier I would like to be certain.

So, does anyone have any suggestions as where I should look next to find the fault, or is there a diagnostic procedure available somewhere? I have searched for one, including on TOPIx without success, but perhaps I missed it somewhere.

Any advice and suggestions will be appreciated.

Regards.

Mike

Post #437151 5th May 2017 11:26am
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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

I had similar, replaced compressor and still had issues, ended up being a corroded resovoir and the pressure sensor attached to it was dying. Removed resovoir and it was full of rusty water. Replaced it and it's been fine since

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alistairh



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Just checked my resovoir pressure and it's 187psi..usually if it's the compressor it will give you a pressure static when filling fault codes if the compressors failing..

Post #437176 5th May 2017 3:19pm
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Joe90



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You will enjoy removing the reservoir, and the valve block that has all the sticky bits that once unstuck do not stick back again. If you don't want to remove the reservoir, first port of call is the pressure sensor, located at the rear end. .
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Post #437199 5th May 2017 6:38pm
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Mikey32



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Hi.

Thank you both for your responses.

Fortunately, battling with the valve block under the vehicle is not applicable here, as the valve block is contained within the compressor housing, together with the reservoir pressure sensor. The reservoir itself is still underneath though, and has only a single pipe connected. (I invested in some TOPIx time this afternoon, to find this out.)

So I think my next step is to check out the valve block as best I can, though I suspect substitution will be the real test.

Thanks again for your thoughts, and I will post an update, when I've had a chance to take a look, which will have to wait for a few days as management has a few other jobs lined up for me.

Regards.

Mike

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Spanish vimto



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England 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Hi Mikey32, did you manage to get to the bottom of this, as i have the same issues Tdv8 vogue
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Post #444227 11th Jul 2017 2:21pm
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Mikey32



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Hi.

Sorry, I should have updated this thread. My only excuse is other time pressures.

Which is very poor link into the topic here.

The problem was indeed the reservoir having rusted away at its front end.

Others have said you can hear the air coming out. I couldn't, probably due to to the size of the hole.

Anyway, reservoir has been changed, and the suspension goes up much faster than it did before, so I guess it had been leaking for a good while.

My thanks to Dan at Duckworth for supplying the replacement so promptly.

Good luck with finding the problem with your FF.

Regards.

Mike

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Sea Aitch



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zermatt Silver

My car is the same age and model as Mikey 32's, and I seem to have a very similar problem.
For a little while, shortly after starting off, I also get the dreaded 'Bong' sound, followed up by, 'Suspension Fault. Normal Height Only' message on the dashboard. The lights are then out on the height adjustment switch which is presumably "Fail Safe" as shown below. Turning the car off and restarting usually gets it working again.
When the system is working, the car goes up and down, but it does it very slowly.

I've plugged in the GAP IID tool, and got the following reports








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Apologies for so many screenshots, but can anybody help me to interpret these results please? My initial thought is that I've got exactly the same problem as Mikey, (leaking reservoir) but looking at the 6th picture, the red line on the graph is the reading for the height on the Front Left. The other three corners are stable, but FL seems to be constantly twitching. I suppose it's possible that this is not connected with the main problem, but it would be good to eliminate it.
The gallery pressure (?) is constant at 235.
Any help would be appreciated before I start to replace the reservoir.
Thanks

Colin

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JPJ64



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I had the same problem with the 'noisy' signal from the front left corner. I changed the height sensor and it's been fine since with a nice flat line on the IID tool.

Mind that's not been the end of my issues as it looks like my compressor is on its way out too and possible valve block issues. Censored

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Sea Aitch



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zermatt Silver

I replaced the corroded and leaking reservoir at the weekend, and hey presto, all is well again. Thanks to Mikey32 for the heads up and Dan for the quick despatch of the new reservoir. A straightforward job that was quite inexpensive so happy days.....

Post #450530 11th Sep 2017 11:16am
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Strider



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

Having just read the above post (one of many) about the air suspension.

It occured to me that maybe a better solution than moisture crystals to avoid getting moisture in the system, is to do exactly what a factory layout that has compressed air on tap does.
Namely, to add to the circuit a moisture trap, that periodically can be drained (they are usually a glass bowl with a draincock at the bottom). Some members have found, when replacing their reservoir that its partly filled with water, also what about a displacement lubricator in the circuit as well ?.

I wonder how buses, coaches and lorries manage.

Just a thought guys

Post #450542 11th Sep 2017 12:53pm
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Lukie



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2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

Just a thought for you guys, you mention your old compressor is an Hitachi, they did change to a different make compressor for some models, if you have changed the compressor manufacture then you need to do a software update

Had all these issues myself changing the compressor on a mates sport thing

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