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Red Merle



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Dolphinboy wrote:
Very positive review in Today's (sat 29 Jul) daily telegraph motoring section.


Darn it! My folks take The Telegraph, but it's not in the main paper; was it in a suppliment (which is somewhere in the recycling shed!).

Would you be able to scan me a copy if I ask nicely? Very Happy 

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Or you could just read it online.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/land-rover...itish-suv/

Not all of the telegraph is behind a pay wall.

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Actually Kurt this online version is even better than the paper as you get more photos! Nice one 👍

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Red Merle



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Thanks for that Thumbs Up 

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I passed one on the road today ... instantly recognisable as an RR coming towards you, but then a second after that you get the 'looks like an f-pace' thought as you look in the rear view mirror. You can really see the same platform design / body on both. V8 or else.

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Good looking car. I'm wondering when the flush door handles and the HVAC video screen will appear on the FFRR.

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The FFRR is due to receive the Velar's HVAC controls soon - photographs of the developments cars are already elsewhere on this site. Expect the first examples to be in production by early next year.

Expect a fully working software upgrade to be available to your dealer around 18 months later! Rolling Eyes Laughing 

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Rolling with laughter

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saw the car yesterday at my dealer - it is tiny - on the good side: the new dashboard, seats and steering wheel - but the MY 2018 of the FFRR will get it too Smile All my spelling errorz are belong to me!

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Another review: https://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2017/08/range-rover-velar-review/

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Red Merle



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rodp wrote:
JLR don't get it wrong nowadays...


If only that were so!

I'm a big LR fan, but let's remember that Gerry McGovern pi**ed off at least half of the Discovery's customer base with the oddball D5 and have completely surrendered the Defender market with plenty of hints, but no real idea of when it will be replaced, if it happens at all. (Best farmer quote to date: "I've known castrated bulls come faster than the new Defender!") 

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Paul J. wrote:
Another review: https://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2017/08/range-rover-velar-review/


Very interesting review, I particularly liked this bit:

"For everything else, you mostly have to poke around on the two touchscreens (actual name: InControl Touch Pro Duo) until you stumble across the feature you're looking for. In case you've never used a touchscreen car infotainment system while driving, let me tell you something: you really do not want to use a touchscreen while driving. The on-screen buttons are small. There's no feedback, haptic or otherwise, so you have to actually turn your head and look at the screen to make sure you've hit the right button. If you hit the the wrong button, which will regularly happen, you need to hit another small button to go back and try again. Generally I prefer to be focusing on the road when behind the wheel of a two-ton hunk of metal and leather."

It did look fabulous when I saw it a few months ago, but I know exactly what he means. It seems as stupid as driving whilst trying to operate an iPad on the passenger seat Shocked I have no regrets in knowingly having ordered the very last of the current type on the FF. Getting the last of the adaptive Xenon's is a bonus too!

It's a very nice looking car but the biggest deal breaker for me would be the lack of low range. Forgivable on cheaper cars like the Evoque and DS, but not at this price and no, the electronics are no substitute for low range. Having driven along a narrow single track over a mountain pass today (and being completely terrified of heights and very narrow roads, especially when crossing 45 degree scree slopes Shocked Rolling Eyes ) I was very grateful for the levels of control and the cool brakes afforded by using low range and paddle shifters to control decent speed. An ordinary car would have done it perfectly but, as a nervous wreck, I found it very reassuring all the same! Rolling Eyes Thumbs Up 

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Agree with the comments re touchscreen.

Although we've not had the FF long, 90%+ of the fancy screen based features aren't usable if your driving on your own. Whoever is is the passenger seat takes charge of that side of things, or, if on my own, things have to wait until stopped at traffic lights.

About all I can manage is changing the track on bluetoothed music, or changing the volume..

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Having now had a proper look at the Velar range in the flesh at my dealer I have to say its a very impressive alternative and is strikingly attractive in the flesh. Thumbs Up 
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^^^^^^^I completely agree. When we ordered the FF we did look at the Velar too but I knew if I bought the Velar the FF itch still wouldn't have been scaratched.

I think the Velar will be a massive success for JLR Thumbs Up

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