Hi Mike, ah yes your grams gain over 60 miles is a lot - for you. Kinda normal for me. Not sure the rain would affect, maybe a little.

Ian - there are two groups of live values - tested and untested. No idea why it's like that. Try the other. Should be there.

. Cheers, Greg
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Thanks Greg, it doesn't show untested values on mine, I'm going to email Pat at GAP and see what he can suggest  Cheers Ian
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Good luck with emailing GAP. I sent them an email a couple of weeks ago about this exact question, and have received no reply yet.

Just to update this after an email conversation with Pat @Gap I can now read my Dpf values


Simes I had to connect my IID tool up to the computer and update the firmware. I was on firmware 3.00.00 and 'upgraded' it to 3.00.00 Build 2624 and it now shows all the untested values  Cheers Ian
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Great!

How many grams you got Ian?

FYI The DPF Remaining Volume doesn't work. Must chase Pat on that.
. Cheers, Greg
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That is a very good question, I couldn't find Non Continuous Soot Mass in any of my readings but that may be because it's a L405 I did check a few boxes and came up with these settings so as you can see I haven't got a clue how much soot I have

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Ian
Are you running your IID on Android or iOS (Apple) product?
I too can't find Non Continuous Soot Mass but have the same one as you = DPF soot concentration - inferred using differential pressure
Mine's an L322 and not an L405.
Discussion on it over here: https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic48068-60.html
Odd eh?
Rob 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Rob, I'm running on IOS, I got in touch with Pat at IID and he told me to update the firmware on the IID tool, once this was done I could see all the untested values. I had to make sure the tool was updated to build 2624 but that was last September so it may have updated again since then. If you get stuck, get in touch with Pat, he virtually talked me through how to make sure I had the right firmware on the tool and they can tell at their end when it's right. Hope that helps  Cheers Ian
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Ian 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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So Ian, can you get the grams figure for Non Continuous Soot Mass ?

Greg Cheers, Greg
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Yesterday I decided to take the FFRR out for a drive to top up with fuel and collect some bits from B&Q. On the way to the fuel station I got the yellow DPF warning but had less than a quarter of a tank so knew it wouldn't do a regen at that point, besides, I was in start stop traffic too so that wouldn't have helped either. Decided that once I had the fuel on board and collected my bits from B&Q to head out on to the M6 and drive for around 30 mins to clear the DPF message. This didn't go as I expected, took the first run and after 30 mins the light was still showing so decided to pull of the motorway and take a look at the forum just to check I was doing things right. Read a few posts and saw a suggestion that I should drop into sports mode and keep the revs above 2,000 to generate extra heat. Back on the motorway, revs at around 2,500 in 5th for 30 mins and the warning message was still there. Once again pulled off the motorway and this time left the car for an hour and took a walk around the local area. Back in the car and back on the motorway, another 30 mins driving this time just in D and still no sign of the warning disappearing. By this time I just resigned myself to the fact it wasn't going to happen so came off at the next junction, turned round and headed home. Ironically, whilst sitting at a set of traffic lights the light finally went off. So today I get in the car because I'm dropping it off at my local indy after work. Drive for around 20 mins along rural roads so doing speeds between 30 & 60 with no traffic. Get to the town centre, and from nowhere I get the red DPF full message followed by a mass cloud of smoke coming out the back. No message of restricted performance but I can now only get to about 30 and it feels like I'm pulling away in 3rd gear, so I suspect it's in limp home mode. Just hoping I can get to my indy now which is about 20 miles away. What I don't understand is why after completing a regen yesterday did it go straight to a RED today. Waht could possibly build soot up that quickly? I have the upgraded plenum hoses so it's not that, and why the mass cloud of smoke from the exhaust? Anyone any ideas?

dennij.

presuming yours is a L322 4.4 TDV8 - you are indeed currently in Red Warning Light Limp Mode. It will need an indy to force regen.

When in Yellow DPF Full warning you don't need high revs or sports mode to regen. about 50mph steady is the most efficient regen, however any speed over 37mph is good. Dropping a few cogs can stop the regen.


I have had the Yellow warning light go out twice after a run at traffic lights - then went straight back to Yellow - I had a MAF sensor sooted up which stopped the car from re-genning. Easy fix.
As to why it went off then directly to red from blank - Indy will do a smoke test to see if there's a leak somewhere.
The indy will need to force regen it for you. I don't think you completed a full regen - it sounds more like your Soot Fill dipped briefly - however only an IIDTool can tell you that.

I've driven mine with a Red DPF Full Limp Mode for 12 miles no drama. I would be comfortable going 20 miles in Limp mode, hell I'd be comfortable driving an L322 50 miles+ in Limp mode. I once drove a P38 140 miles in Limp mode.

Most importantly - there is a tendency to think there is something major wrong after reading some misleading posts - don't be spooked - 99% of Yellow warning lights are just small problems / or a perfect storm of driving conditions (like less that 1/4 tank as you mentioned etc). DPFs are designed to last the life of the car and actually very simple pieces of engineering.

Hope that's some help. PM me if you'd like to dicsuss more. Your indy will sort it.

Good luck.



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Hi, Range Rover L322 thanks for the reply. It did seem odd to me that it took so long to do a simple regen from an amber. What you say about the soot level dropping just enough to turn it off would make sense. I suspect as you say that there is a leak somewhere that is causing the soot to build up too quickly. My indy is a good garage who looks after my Freelander 2 and has always been spot on with stuff so hopefully he can work some magic. I have read so many stories on here about the DPF warnings coming on and was feeling pleased that I had yet to experience it so after yesterdays fiasco and then this mornings warning I naturally began to fear the worst. Knocked my confidence in the car if I'm honest but your words of encouragement have given me some hope. Will let you know what my indy finds once he takes a look at it, hopefully something not too expensive to fix.

Oh yes, forgot to say, yes it's 61 plate 4.4 TDV8 with 115,000 on the clock

You May not need to go to a dealer to regen. I got the same symptoms as you, no yellow light, straight to red and limp mode. I bought an IID tool and checked the live values. I had a “high” level of diesel in oil (reading of 12) I had an oil change done and reset the service indicator (are you due a service? I suspect so) it regened on its own on the next motorway run and I have had no lights or probs since.

I cleared the red light by resetting all faults with IID.

Looky here

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic53167.html

Hi dolphinboy, yes definitely due a service which was why I was taking it to my Indy after work. Not sure when one was last carried out so booked it in for a full service just to be sure. Managed to get to my Indy using the paddle shifters which helped me get up to 50mph until I reached any incline where the speed scrubbed off, much to the annoyance of the people behind me. When I dropped it off the first thing my Indy said was that it wouldn’t be the DPF but something else so I just have to wait now and see what he comes back with. Will keep you all posted