Dixy Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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Vague steering on a Defender is usually a worn steering box.

Dixy wrote:

I do not understand the question, its a bit like asking wife or mistress.
You just have to have both as they are for totally different things.

Pixelpower wrote:

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Vague steering on a Defender is usually a worn steering box.

It was nearly new with 8000 on the clock.

drove my 110 from Santandar to Algerciers in under 23hrs it was workable but not as comfy as RR. then again i didnt want a RR when i got to Morocco! Cheers

James

Defender

the compromise is a Classic Rangie, you can do everything in it that you want the Defender for and it is still so much more comfy.

I would not want to swap my classic for a Defender Puma, no way.

Dixy wrote:

I do not understand the question, its a bit like asking wife or mistress.
.

Surly the mistress is for getting dirty with too!!

Now you have mentioned the RRC it just confuses things more. The ride in my RRC is very nice but obviously never the same as any 322. That said, ride aside (and its not bad by any stretch), the teddy bear fabric seats are by far the most comfortable car seats I have ever sat in - far more comfortable that my LM and even more comfortable that my mates brand new 405! (yes really).

I sat in a Defner for the first time a few days ago. Why? because I am seriously considering dropping the LM for a 90. The lack of steering wheel drop-ability is a real issue - the driving position was alien with the wheel up in the air so I am hoping other models have the ability.

Just like my lads recent purchase of a '72 mini - its just something every bloke should own at some point - normally between the ages of 50 and 55!  405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
93 RR Classic efi

Remember it's easier to get forgiveness than permission!

Gone in order:
4.4 TDV8 SE - gone to a good home
93 Classic hard dash Plymouth Blue
03 L322 Oslo Blue
2000 Disco TD5 ES Epsom Green
98 P38 Rioja Red
89 Classic Cairngorm Brown

I still have my RRC softdash, in the shed, miss having her on the road, I'd love a defender but wouldn't have a defender over my RRC as I think they are just overpriced tractors to me

Defender has the same chassis thereabouts from the RRC, but he latter is rarer and valued less???????  Regards
Royston

2008 4.2 Supercharged Autobiography
1994 Classic Vogue SE
1999 Rover BRM
1987 Rover Vitesse Twin Plenum

There is really only one solution.

Dixy: "I do not understand the question"

They are chalk and cheese, but the question(?) was about pricing/value
(with the assumption that an FFRR is the premium 4x4 on the market)

A 2009 Defender is worth twice what a 2009 FFRR is

You have an FFRR but you have to trade up to a Defender


@ defender Dave (jealous if you have both to play with) .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

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Joe,

I consider myself a very lucky man - 2 vehicles I have always wanted were a soft top Defender and a Range Rover - job done!!

Never been a deafener fan.

(ducks and hoses behind the sofa)

Have driven a few and its not my cup of tea.

I have this solution

MUDDY CAR (at moment very muddy inside and out and full of tools)

That is not a muddy car

This is

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That is quite Muddy.......

Mine isn’t that muddy but isn’t far off! We’ve had so much rain on site the last couple of weeks and it’s not helped by the plant making extra mud. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
Fiat 500x 1.4 multiair Lounge 2015
2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6