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JW911



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New Jack?

I fitted the summer wheels and tyres today but my jack failed after I'd only done one. The rest were done with a trolley jack I borrowed from the local garage.

Anyway, can anyone recommend a good portable jack suitable for a FFRR? I would imagine a bottle jack is the way forward....

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what gaz says...the RR jacks are rubbish, mine bent on its first outing....there's no solution other than carrying a 3 ton trolley around with you..

dont know about a bottle jack cos you cant stick it under the chassis [to tall] so the only other place is the 'official' jacking points which i've found dont lift the range enough. ... - .- -.




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It's more just for swapping winter and summer tyres. The onboard spare was replaced with a can of Tyreweld when the LPG tank was fitted. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
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Currently thinking the same - I have got an 8 ton bottle jack and in the official jack points just raises the car but not enough (quite) to clear the wheel you want. however I have just found this 12Ton bottle jack that lifts to 465mm - anyone got access to the official RR jack and can measure the lifting height of that to compare?

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/81423/Van-Ca...ottle-Jack

Again my need is for swapping winter and summer tyres so 'occasional use' "On first name terms with my local Dealer......now."

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i think the required lift is around 500mm to clear the wheels of the ground...just a thought, how about putting the range in access mode and leaving the door open so that it wont self level, anyone tried this?. ... - .- -.




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A bottle jack is OK as long as you can position it under the suspension arm, easy on the rear - not so easy on the fronts though.

Most halfords trolley jacks don't lift high enough I found, I had to go for their most expensive one and it's only got about 2 inches grace. Lifting the car by the body is never a great idea, there is so much transfer of weight the whole car wants to move slowly, it's generally these forces that cause the factory jack to fold in half or strip the thread.

As I have LPG I don't have a spare anyway and I have full RAC membership with Barclays, so really only need a jack in the garage. 

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Don't forget to put the car into "Offroad" height and then open the boot lid.

This may seem odd but it means the least jacking height for the wheels to clear the ground as the they will not drop/sag at all as they will/may in normal/access height.

This works especially well if you are using a trolley jack and jacking from under the lower suspension arms (I put wood between Jack & Car to protect) as although the body of the car is higher in "Offroad" the lower suspension arm is the same distance from the ground but the suspension is at its max limit and so wheel will raise very quickly....

I changed all four wheels yesterday using this method (Halfords Trolley Jack) in under an hour and that included a quick painting of the hubs!

Gary

PS: Using this method the Trolley Jack had loads of jacking height to spare.

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I use a trolley jack which was my fathers and must be at least 40 years old. It has a lifting capacity of 3 tons and maximum lift of 22" (56cm). I also have a 20 ton bottle jack with a maximum lift of 20" (51cm) I also place a piece of timber between the jack and the vehicle to prevent slippage.
If jacking a single front wheel off the ground I place the jack on the engine subframe, for the rear I use the designated jacking point

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New plan - instead of trying to lift the entire body by using the official jacking points (how much articulation is there in a RR!!) I'm going for the 'jack under the axle' approach. "On first name terms with my local Dealer......now."

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best way, i have a 3 ton trolley jack in the garage and will rely on the breakdown service to jack mine up to fit the spare...

one thing i did do when we went to belgium was to put said trolley jack in the very large boot, just in case Wink ... - .- -.




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MrP wrote:
New plan - instead of trying to lift the entire body by using the official jacking points (how much articulation is there in a RR!!) I'm going for the 'jack under the axle' approach.



I always use the trolley jack under the relevant lower suspension arm.. suitably protected to prevent damage. Thumbs Up 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

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trolley jack from machine mart (high lift) but was told by my mechanic to always use a block of wood as a 'cushion'

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This works especially well if you are using a trolley jack and jacking from under the lower suspension arms (I put wood between Jack & Car to protect) as although the body of the car is higher in "Offroad" the lower suspension arm is the same distance from the ground but the suspension is at its max limit and so wheel will raise very quickly....


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