I went to the supermarket today with my three kids to get some stuff & on the way home the power steering felt a bit funny. Having owned a Range Rover for a few months I didn't think "oh well" I just started to look for somewhere to dump it before it blew up again! Then I got the "pong" & looked down to see "coolant too hot" or something like that and then "pong" "check coolant level" then a nasty twang noise. Dumped it in a bus lane and got out to check the latest disaster under the bonnet just in time to get the contents of the radiator on my shoes.
Steam everywhere & the fan belt looked like it had been eaten by the radiator cowl. As I reached down the water pump fell away from the engine. Ah well I thought & got on the phone to a nice man from the AA who I now know by name. I explained to him I was an ex-mechanic & my water pump had fallen off. He sent out a very nice man in a van who told me my water pump had fallen off & sent for a big truck to take it to the dealers again.
I got it to the dealers & wrote a note to let anyone who got in it not to start the engine as the engine had no water or water pump etc. The "Land Rover technician" who mistook me for the recovery driver said to me they would "just f%$ing drive it in anyway" as the customer wont know. I did of course put him right.
I'm now waiting for them to ring me with my next telephone number bill. Anyone any idea what would be a fair price for this job and if it could have oh joy, scrapped the engine?

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hopefully if you stopped in time the HG's wont have been eaten.

I think its about £200-300 for those engines though not sure but being an LR dealer possibly double it as those numbers would be the 2hrs labour alone...

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sorry but i cant help chuckling at your write-up MR G....

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Perhaps your suspension clunk was a loose water pump.



Going to change inner and outer track rod ends on mine, will keep you informed.

Best of luck with yours.

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Ah well I thought & got on the phone to a nice man from the AA who I now know by name. I explained to him I was an ex-mechanic & my water pump had fallen off. He sent out a very nice man in a van who told me my water pump had fallen off & sent for a big truck to take it to the dealers again.

I know this feeling - The first time SWMBO broke down in ours (Trannie failure) I rang the RACV to get it towed. "We'll send a mechanic to looka t it for you" was the reply. I politely pointed out that they could save some time & money by sending a tow straight away. "No, we have to get a mechanic to look at it first". Mechanic came out fiddled with the shifter a bit - noted the "TRANS FAILSAFE" warning on the dash and pronounced "Your trannies , I'll get a tilt tray out here..." No Sherlock!!!

The next time (after a torque converter bolt broke) I rang the RACV again. This time when she looked up the car she just said "Oh, a Range Rover - do you want me to send a tow truck out straight away?" I had to laugh...

Just got a call from the dealers & it's going to cost £620! That's for a new pulley, belt & pump + anti freeze. I said could you not run the engine & the main agent said they would just run the engine to get it on a ramp. I pointed out that this would damage the engine, he replied that it may have blown the head gasket anyway. I stopped the car within a few seconds of the battery light coming on & the coolant came out AFTER I stopped (on my shoes). Can't see how the head gasket could go if the engine was stopped before losing the coolant so just hope they don't blow it running it about with no coolant in it

Suppose they know they have you over a barrel. They also mentioned the pump may have sent pieces of the impeller into the coolant system & it MAY go again within a few days / weeks. When we used to do a water pump we used to flush all the bits out but the main agents don't bother They do fill you with confidence which is why I don't mind paying so much It's still got a knock on the front passenger side after paying out over £1,000 to various garages including the main agents.

I really wanted this car but this is my third time being stranded by the roadside with my children for hours waiting for the AA in the past 6 months. I would class myself as a fully paid up member of the petrol head brigade & more money than sense club but this thing has me beaten. It's not my first Land Rover but it'll be my last. When I took the car to be MOT'd at the garage I used to work at they all said what the f%$k are you doing buying one of them, maybe from experience I should have known better. Most of the work we used to do was Land Rover gearboxes

I know some owners will say they have had no trouble from the car but if you ask me mine isn't a Friday afternoon car, Land Rover only make cars on Friday afternoon

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you certainly have had bad luck with yours but a lot of us havnt ..mine has been pretty well trouble free since buying it in july2010 ..

i would be tempted to sell and buy another one ...lightening doesnt strike twice..............or does it..  ... - .- -.




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I think if I mention selling it THEN buying another one I'd become homeless Scarey

Hope you get you're knock sorted David, after this it makes the knock seem not so bad. Anyway I can't hear it from here

I'm running a Merc at the moment, they didn't have a courtesy car at the main agents. It's not knocking and starts stops & goes when I want it to  Range Rover 4.4 V8 Vogue

We had a P38 Rangie back in the day. It was wifey's car - I had a Jag XK8 at the time. It kept dumping her - usually battery problems. One day, not long after a service, she said "it's making an awful noise". I went out, started the engine to hear the most god awful clatter. No warning lights but a lot of noise. I opened the bonnet and checked the fluids. No oil. Not a drop. I tried pouring some in to find it pooling on the driveway underneath.

Right. "Ok, call the garage tomorrow. Tell them there is a major oil leak and the engine cannot hold oil. It can't be driven. They need to trailer it in to find out what is going on."

Next day I went off to work. She called the garage. Gave them the message. They persuaded her that it is ok to drive it in (c 8 miles and 20 mins). Amazingly it made it. She parked up. The service guy came out to hear the clatter from the engine. He blanched and turned it off as quickly as possible.

Long story short - new engine. It turns out that they had somehow banjaxed the oil pressure sensor at the previous service. It was faulty/damaged and letting oil out whilst not registering a fault on the dash. The garage paid most of it.

Now the wife loathes Rangie with a passion. She has a Landcruiser V8. She is desperate for my Rangie to breakdaown (touch wood, the recent ones have been reliable) and scoffs mercilessly when they do.

How come everyone who has a Range Rover has a story or two about unreliability  Range Rover 4.4 V8 Vogue

is it the car or the dealers?

Well we all have a story so as good old Max Bygraves said......

Mine TD6 2005 broke down on the motorway so AA took it into the dealer. After several days of scratching there heads they came up with a high pressure fuel pump as the problem. When they called me to say all done i collected the car and drove home, on the way i had a few people flash there lights at me and i thought that was nice they either know me or like my car!! On arriving onto my driveway the smoke was coming from everywhere, under the bonnet , out of the bonnet, under the car and back down the drive. I was ready to call the fire brigade. There was diesal everywhere which now explained the flashes i had on the way. Called the dealer which as you can imagine was they sent a mechanic to the house and he found that the diesal return pipe had not been connected properly. He tried to fix and broke it. They then had to arrange to get the car back to dealers. Few days later all fixed no real apology and hardly any fuel to replace all the lost diesal as you can imagine by now i was

Anyways few days later i had to go and collect my dogs from training and there i was, wife , two kids, fast lane of M4 engine just died....... i was cacking it to get over to the hard shoulder. Again called AA trucked in to dealer, left it with them as was to upset to talk to them. On the monday they called , all fixed. On asking for the report it turned out that the fuel sensor wires had been replaced incorrectly and gauage showed half a tank, but was actually empty. I thanked them for there honesty, told them that there was no need to aplogise as they had not ......the told them to shove there dealership

I called Landrover customer services expalined the problem and they where very good rembusring any charges and gave me a voucher giving me £2500 of a new one......... just didnt have the £65k to go with it.

So what was touch wood the only main fault i have had in what.. seven years all the problems was the dealers who mechanics should not even touch lego!!

If any one from a LR dealer in Cardiff is reading this

I like the £2500 off a new one

It's good therapy reading your stories & makes you realize that you are not the only one in Range Rover hell. On the bright side the dealers just rang & told me it should be ready today, oh and that it needs a new battery for £125. Even though it was charged when I took the car in and never had any problems with it over the winter months, I declined the offer.

Should be interesting when the new one comes out though, they can't fix the cars which has been the same for the past decade The problem is what to replace it with, had a look through the Autotrader last night & finding something big enough to carry 5 of us plus all our gear in comfort isn't as easy as it would seem. Like the Porsche Cayenne V8 but would need blindfolding before I got out  Range Rover 4.4 V8 Vogue

This just gets better & better, the dealer just rang & said the jobs turned into a nightmare. They cant get the viscous fan off & are having to destroy it to remove it. Oh and they snapped the top hose housing removing it and it now needs a new top hose to. The cost just to replace the water pump has turned into a £1,000 job!!! I said I can't understand how a simple water pump could cost £1,000 but they have me by the balls as the car's in bits & I can't move it. I'm completely off with the thing  Range Rover 4.4 V8 Vogue

Some dealers can be their own worst enemies. When we had the P38 Range Rover, my wife was dropping the kids off at school. She drove into the car park to find it full so just stopped it blocking all the other cars in. She only needed to get the little dears out of their car seats and would be gone in an instant...

She kissed the kids, pushed them quickly through the gate and rushed back to the car before she inconvenienced anyone. The Rangie was dead. Turned the key and nada. Feck!

She phoned the dealer around the corner. Explained that her Rangie (bought from them) is dead and worse is blocking in the wives of half their potential customers in the area.
"No trouble madam, we will be round immediately".
15 minutes later and she was about to be lynched. She phoned the dealer to ask where the feck they've got to, as it was becoming embarassing.
"Oh, we're not coming. You need to call Land Rover Assistance".
Twunts.
Must have cost them a few sales though, including from me.