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Swapping the battery on a 5.0 SC

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I tried to do this today as per the Wiki and it's a little more complicated with the 5.0SC as you will see. Big Cry

After securing the bonnet up in access mode, and going through the disconnection routine of the battery (which BTW I don't think mine has the explosive device on the positive terminal that my TDV8 had, and also doesn't have the bulkhead jump starting location) I also removed the pollen filter box for easier access (Thanks Craig).

However, in front of the battery in the battery box area is a large ECU with a cooling fan on the back of it, and you cannot remove the battery unless this is removed. The only other alternative is to remove the scuttle panel (which involves removing the A trim pieces, windscreen wipers etc to get it off.)

The ECU has 2 large multiplugs going into the top of it which are clipped in, but there is a metal bracket that overarches the entire unit, maybe for security and this is secured by a hollow star torx bit. I tried all of mine and none of them would fit, it looks like a special LR fitment to me that only the dealer can get out. It looks like a star torx bit, with a centre point in it. So, without being able to remove this, you can't lift the battery out because there isn't enough room for clearance.

What started off as a simple job as usual became complex, just because of one damned fixing. Now I guess I shall have to pay the Dealer to do this work. Seriously annoyed Censored

In the picture below you can see the ECU and housing in the forefront, the torx bit is obscured by the cables going into it on the right side, in line with the Land Rover sticker on the battery.

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In this picture you can see my star torx bits, on the lower row with the hollow centre. None of these fit, it seems to be somewhere between a TX30 and a TX35.

 Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Here's the offending article

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 Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Adam, that has 5 lobes rather than six.

Quote:
A tamper-resistant version of Torx Plus® exists having five lobes rather than six


Wiki link.

No idea where you'd get one. Sad

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Actually, there are loads available on ebay.

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KurtVerbose wrote:
Adam, that has 5 lobes rather than six.

Quote:
A tamper-resistant version of Torx Plus® exists having five lobes rather than six


Wiki link.

No idea where you'd get one. Sad


Well spotted Kurt, I didn't notice!

Oh well, it's booked in at the Dealer now, they'll do it for me. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Sorry to hear Adam, wish I was closer so you could borrow my "security" Torx. Had the same issue with the 2006 SC so bought a set on the net. Good luck, they're easy to find, believe my set actually came from the UK so you should be able to find them and get them quickly on ebay.


Pretty sure this is the kit I got at first but does not have the 5 lobe torx so I got another set.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-33PC-Securit...1e8e4094f3

What about this Smile Smile Smile From the pic it doesn't seem to have the 5 lobe version either
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100pc-CRV-SECURI...48679ca354

This could be the 5 lobe version, difficult to see
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SECURITY-STAR-TO...53e82428a3

Or this one, here it actually says it is the 5 lobe design.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TORX-Plus-TS25-S...2594853643

One more Smile
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Sided-Tamper-S...337e3234a8 MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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Thanks Eugene, appreciated Thumbs Up

Will probably buy some anyway. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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SWMBO doesn't understand that tools are the lifeblood of an engineer. She still doesn't understand why I insisted on keeping my container full of the tools/bike etc. in storage since "it can't be worth paying for the storage for years". Now I have all my tools again, I realize how wrong she is on this particular item.

Already fixed lots of things, put the Kawa back etc. Worth many times the storage cost IMHO.

Anyway, tools in the workshop garage never ever go to waste in my long and "interesting" experience (but then my dad is exactly the same so it must be nature as well as nurture).

Hope that the new battery got all fitted and the gremlins went off to some other poor soul !! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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A word of warning to anyone looking to swap their battery in their 5.0.

Eurocarparts will tell you that the Bosch S5 will fit, and other members on here have bought one, but the battery tray on the 5.0 is smaller and it won't fit.

You also need to have a set of 5lobe torx security bits if you want to DIY fit as there's a whopping ecu in front of the battery that needs removing before you can lift out the battery. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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The 100ah s5 is smaller and would probably fit. Think its 013 size. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I always go for the biggest capacity battery in any car to have extra juice when it counts. So I would go for the biggest that would fit. So thanks for the update Adam !!! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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Adam, I feel your pain chap. The front brakes on my wife's XF use a 9mm Allen key to undo the calipers.

Now, for the age of a donkey (and then some) all allen key sets have come in 1/2mm sizes up to 6mm, then 7mm, 8mm and 10mm. 9mm has never been in any of these sets but it's not something you expect when simply setting up for a pad change. You can order them from EBAY but local motor factors, Halfords etc don't do them. I was lucky enough to see a Snap-on van on my way back from Halfords but he relieved me of 26 quid for one 3/8" drive allen key to fit a ratchet. Now I remember why very few of my tools are Snap-On. Laughing

But this whole ethos of inventing another tool just to make life awkward for non-franchised places and home mechanics is more than a little tiresome.

If the Land Rover people are reading this please explain why a regular Torx screw would not have sufficed? Or even a regular 10mm hex head bolt?

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Blimey, something that should be so simple turns out to be a right pain in the a$$.

Which battery did you opt for in the end then? 2016MY TDV6 Autobiography - Off The Road
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mzplcg wrote:
Adam, I feel your pain chap. The front brakes on my wife's XF use a 9mm Allen key to undo the calipers.


I bought a tap which needed a 9mm allen key. I took it back and got a refund as in the whole store they didn't have a 9mm allen key.

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