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picked my westie up at dinner time and all seems well...i've not tested it yet but i'm sure it will ok... ... - .- -.




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Germany 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

I'm considering upgrading to a 2012 4.4. The LTB005513v4 document states the issue affects VINs up to CA393639.
Is it safe to assume vehicles with newer VINs have had the mod fitted during assembly at the factory? 2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 automatic (LHD), Santorini Black
2008 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 automatic (LHD), Java Black

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That VIN is the last L322. The 4.4 TDV8 in early L405 had the same problem.

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mines a july 2012 Frank and it had this problem, all sorted now Thumbs Up ... - .- -.




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Don't know if ours has this problem... Is it a recall or warranty job and how would you know you were afflicted?

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the second turbo doesn't get used if you keep the rpm below 2500 which most do because of the lazy engine...the simplest way to test is to accelerate rapidly and make sure the rev counter goes over that rpm...if yours is suspect then you'll see loads of white smoke bellowing from the exhaust..
it's not a recall and the problem will have to be officialally diagnosed by the dealer who will submit a claim to LR... ... - .- -.




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Scotland 2014 Range Rover Vogue SDV6 Santorini Black

Thanks Stan, I only tend to use ours at weekends because Mrs pld is the daily user. I have noticed a couple of times recently what I thought was a puff of smoke from the exhausts when I've accelerated briskly down motorway slip roads; and in recent months, 2 or 3 times Mrs pld has told me about a DPF warning displayed on the dash but that has always cleared after a 20 to 30 minute 70mph motorway drive (the car does get regularly used on motorway runs but then can end up pootling around locally for a few weeks between home and Mrs pld's work). Car is running fine though and no obvious leaks etc.

Thoughts welcome.

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motorway slip roads are a good test bed for this fault...if you do have a fault then there will be quite a bit of white smoke coming from the exhausts on this test.. ... - .- -.




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CS wrote:
I was told that one of my turbos has an oil weep, which the mod would address - that is the only way I know about it as no smoke. No warranty and apparently LR do not offer any assistance with cost, it is about 8 hours work, mine is to be checked in the spring for deterioration. It would be nice if LR would contribute, as it seems a design fault and not a cheap fix.


Not being funny but no turbo should be weeping oil in normal service! I'll put money on that turbo failing in the future as the seals have now been blown past their intended design... FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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cass wrote:
I knew about this problem when I was looking for a 4.4 TDV8 earlier this year so when I found the right car I managed to provoke the smoke problems on the test drive. The car was in a main dealer (non LR) and they agreed to get the mod done as part of the deal, they had no luck getting any help from the local LR dealer and had the job done at Team Valley Land Rover and I have a copy of the invoice for £948.44 inc VAT.
I've done 8000 miles since and have had no signs of smoke or DPF issues (now touching wood and lucky rabbits foot while crossing fingers, toes, eyes & testacles).
When going through the service history there was a comment on the invoice for the service done at a LR main dealer at 30ishK miles that the turbo drain mod needed to be done, I can only guess that they didn't want to do it under warranty.
So in answer to the OP questions
Yes it works
Costs about £1000 at a decent independent
Getting LR to help seems a hit and miss affair


Could you not speak to landrover services and ask for a 'refund' for a fault that was known and not fixed when in warranty by them and show them the evidence that it was spotted as an issue thatnweses resolving? FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Causeway Grey

"Could you not speak to landrover services and ask for a 'refund' for a fault that was known and not fixed when in warranty by them and show them the evidence that it was spotted as an issue thatnweses resolving?"

Considering that the dealer selling the car to me had no luck with LR and it looks like the previous owner got no help I can't imagine that they will be willing to give me something towards the fix particularly seeing that I didn't even pay for it.
Wont be worth the time or effort.

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kingpleb, I agree, and the problem is not that I don't get over 2,500 rpm, or town driving. The car is running fine, but I expect it is waiting for the most inconvenient moment for the turbo to fail... Only Range Rovers since 1988

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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover SE Td6 Zermatt Silver

£1000 fix if you are not in warranty.... Sad

Scandal as its a known fault as per tech bulletin and certainly not the owners fault.

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I have been told by my dealer that the mod is not covered by warranty.
I have asked them to challenge that because I know that at least one has been done under warranty free of charge.
If anyone else has had this mod done under LR Approved warranty PLEASE either post the details, or PM me if you prefer.
Mine is booked in to be looked at, but, the dealer is asking ME for evidence that LR Approved have accepted other claims.

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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Causeway Grey

Have you tried speaking to the warranty supplier or LR customer services direct?
After being refused a claim on my last Range Rover for a steering column motor fix, I rang the warranty company and found that Stratstones had misled/misinformed them about the problem. Result was I didn't pay for the repair though I couldn't say for certain who did.
Next instance was a Jag parking sensor issue, Stratstones said that the warranty company refused to pay, however when I rang the warranty company they knew nothing of the claim and told me it would be covered and gave me a reference number to pass on to the dealer along with a number for them to contact. Same thing, the bill was paid by someone other than me.

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