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lazylabs



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Finally Arrived.... egr emulators....

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After 2 month delay these bad boys finally turned up.

Been interested to see what they are like. Time for some data capturing... Smile Current Family:
2012 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
2013 Jaguar XFs 3.0d Sportbrake
2008 FFRR 3.6 TDV8 VSE (Gone)
2008 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2tdci (Gone)
2006 S Class 320 CDI (Gone)
1998 P38a 4.6 VSE Oxford Blue 98k (Gone)
Vx Vectra C Estate 1.9cdti 150 (with a few twists) (Gone)

Other LR's in Family (2019 4.4 TDV8 AB)

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Post #432108 22nd Mar 2017 6:31pm
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Mr Tee



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Oooh EGR emulators by any chance?

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lazylabs



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Spot on Mr Tee.... Current Family:
2012 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
2013 Jaguar XFs 3.0d Sportbrake
2008 FFRR 3.6 TDV8 VSE (Gone)
2008 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2tdci (Gone)
2006 S Class 320 CDI (Gone)
1998 P38a 4.6 VSE Oxford Blue 98k (Gone)
Vx Vectra C Estate 1.9cdti 150 (with a few twists) (Gone)

Other LR's in Family (2019 4.4 TDV8 AB)

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Saw you posted them on fb as well. Keen to hear your experiences with them Thumbs Up

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lazylabs



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Yes I'm going to try to capture some before and after data. See what if any differences. Current Family:
2012 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
2013 Jaguar XFs 3.0d Sportbrake
2008 FFRR 3.6 TDV8 VSE (Gone)
2008 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2tdci (Gone)
2006 S Class 320 CDI (Gone)
1998 P38a 4.6 VSE Oxford Blue 98k (Gone)
Vx Vectra C Estate 1.9cdti 150 (with a few twists) (Gone)

Other LR's in Family (2019 4.4 TDV8 AB)

Post #432114 22nd Mar 2017 6:49pm
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rar110



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That's great, I was thinking Autocode had stopped making them. I've had them fitted to the tdv8 for nearly a year. Very happy. I'd be interested in the data too. ______________________________
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lazylabs



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yes I waited a long time for them to come back in stock, it was you that put me onto them in the first place @rar110

Think they have had a few problems and been very busy working on other versions plus think an office move or something cause some issues. Terrible communication from them, waited over 2 months due to courier problems but Mark was very helpful and we got there in the end.

So can't wait to get them fitted.

You had any problems at all? I know you mentioned an occasional idling hiccup?

I'll gather what I can and see if it shows anything useful... Thumbs Up Current Family:
2012 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
2013 Jaguar XFs 3.0d Sportbrake
2008 FFRR 3.6 TDV8 VSE (Gone)
2008 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2tdci (Gone)
2006 S Class 320 CDI (Gone)
1998 P38a 4.6 VSE Oxford Blue 98k (Gone)
Vx Vectra C Estate 1.9cdti 150 (with a few twists) (Gone)

Other LR's in Family (2019 4.4 TDV8 AB)

Post #432154 22nd Mar 2017 9:22pm
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rar110



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It's a 5 min job to fit them. I haven't noticed the tachometer bounce lately. It's probably the MAFs needing a tidy up. ______________________________
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rar110



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I tidied up my install just the other day.

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lazylabs



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All installed. Easy 10min job.

Started up no problems., no faults. Could swear the engine was idling was quieter... Question

Gathered bit of data. Will give them a good test over the coming week, see if any problems but so far so good.




 Current Family:
2012 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Westminster
2013 Jaguar XFs 3.0d Sportbrake
2008 FFRR 3.6 TDV8 VSE (Gone)
2008 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2tdci (Gone)
2006 S Class 320 CDI (Gone)
1998 P38a 4.6 VSE Oxford Blue 98k (Gone)
Vx Vectra C Estate 1.9cdti 150 (with a few twists) (Gone)

Other LR's in Family (2019 4.4 TDV8 AB)

Post #432799 26th Mar 2017 10:28pm
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rar110



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Very nice. Much more professional than my install. I've never opened the mystery black box. Thumbs Up ______________________________
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I hesitate to show my ignorance to the world but what are these boxes of witchcraft that you speak of? Agueroooooooooo. 93-20
I swear you will never see anything like this ever again....watch it..drink it in.

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They basically fool the ecu into thinking the EGR valves are working, whilst making them inoperative.

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To fit the emulators you unplug the EGRs from the ECU while the engine is off and the EGRs are in the fully closed position. You then plug the emulators into the ECU and the EGRs remain unplugged and so closed. The emulators send signals to the ECU like the EGR would. The EGRs remain closed but the ECU is happily thinking they are opening and closing as normal.

The benefit is that no exhaust soot is feed into the intake manifold where it mixes with oil vapor from the crank case ventilation system, to cause the build up of sludge in the manifold. Another benefit is the motor idles and runs quieter, and there's less black smoke out the back on hard acceleration.

There are other debatable benefits. I say debatable as I'm not an engineer. It's possible that EGRs on the tdv8 get stuck in the open position from exhaust build up from short runs and idling around. A fault should show up. However if it doesn't exhaust then continuously cycles into the manifold and the motor compensates by dumping more fuel in leading to higher EGTs through the turbo for extended periods. If that's true the emulators stop that happening. The other possible benefit is that EGR bits come loose with age and fatigue with the open and closed movement. The bits then make their way into the motor causing a failure. ______________________________
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