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Alistair



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Re: Towing advice... petrol vs diesel

/\ Rolling with laughter spot on - i couldn’t have lived with a TD6 at all - if you can happily tow with one, then any other FFRR will be a dream - I’m sure even a 3.6 TDV8 could pull a 3.5 trailer and still be quicker than an unladen TD6

Rosco wrote:
TD6 has done this perfectly

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Grofus



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I recently had 3 x1100litre IBC containers full of oil on a trailer behind my 3.6 TDV8. It felt effortless. I'm still gobsmacked by it. Unbelievable tow car. 2007 Vogue TDV8 in Zermatt Silver with Charcoal

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rvbush



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The 5.0 is around 17mpg when I'm towing...


HOW MUCH!!?

Jeez, my 2003 4.4 Petrol can just about manage 12mpgs towing, although it does tow with apparent ease (subjectively, clearly working much harder than a SC does!).

Had the car for 11 years now, covered about 60k miles in it (just clocked over 100k now), roughly 75% towing a horse box with two big horses aboard. No major issues. Drives:
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue - Stornoway Grey
2010 FFRR TdV8 Vogue SE - Zermatt Silver
1998 BMW E36 M3 GTII

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nicksaab



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I think if I was towing 2 horses with a 5.0SC I would constantly be thinking about the quote Clarkson made when Volvo launched the 850 T5 Estate all those years ago - enough acceleration to give your Labrador whiplash........ Current Fleet:-
2018 Discovery 5 3.0 HSE
2021 Ford Ranger Wildtrack
2019 Ford Mustang Bullitt 5.0 V8
1993 Defender 90 200TDI Pickup

Gone - not forgotten
2016 L405 4.4 SDV8 Vogue SE
2012 L322 4.4 Westminster
2004 L322 4.4 V8 Autobiography LE
2000 P38 RR 4.0 HSE (ex Clarkson test car)

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Rolling with laughter brilliant ______________________________
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Rosco



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Thanks Guys, lots of good info there Bow down

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Yeah, I got about 14 out of that BMW V8 engine when towing and despite the massive step increases in performance of the two SCs over that, they've got successively more efficient. Impressive innit!? Mike - MPx

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Rosco



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Re: Towing advice... petrol vs diesel

Alistair wrote:
/\ Rolling with laughter spot on - i couldn’t have lived with a TD6 at all - if you can happily tow with one, then any other FFRR will be a dream - I’m sure even a 3.6 TDV8 could pull a 3.5 trailer and still be quicker than an unladen TD6

Rosco wrote:
TD6 has done this perfectly


Interesting point Alistair, this has come up quite a lot over the years, I got mine at 2 years old in 2006 and have a feeling based on this sort of feedback that it may have been chipped as it was in no way slow, it has towed effortlessly c.3 tonne all over the UK doing around 100,000 since I have had it (80% towing). I unfortunately dabbled with a TDV8 sport for a bit, yes it was quicker, more torque etc, and I imagine much better in an FFRR but the TD6 has been great and I won't hear a word against them (apart from the gearbox obviously) Rolling with laughter

PS my current work ride is an Aston V12 so I know fast cars !

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Harlin



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and if you pop the 4.2 into sport mode it holds the gear longer , great for towing ,fantastic for driving

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KurtVerbose



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Re: Towing advice... petrol vs diesel

Rosco wrote:
the TD6 has been great and I won't hear a word against them


I agree, you won't hear a word against them - above the cacophony of the diesel din!

Hey, I had my TD6 for almost 8 years. It did a huge amount of work for me including taking +80 tonnes of spoil from a basement dig. I loved the car and thought it was fantastic, but quiet and fast it was not.

...and mine had a tuning box. No idea how bad it would've been without it. < 200 bhp for a 2.5 tonne car and 3.5 tonne trailer is too little.

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sako243



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Well I shifted a milling machine for my father, total trailer weight was 3.5 tonnes and the TDV8 did notice it but it was still effortless. Averaged 19mpg over the Welsh mountains.

No issues towing the 110 either apart from that acting like a sail on the Severn Bridge. Nice slab side with the bonnet over the roof of the FF.

Only thing I will say is the diesels will deliver a much higher percentage of their torque from a standstill but then again a pokey 100HP 110 with similar levels of torque can still shift 3.5 tonnes. Just not as effortlessly as the newer engines.

Now just got to keep saving for the LS3... Ed

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I tow 2 horses regularly, 14.2 section D and ISH 16.2 with an old rice trailer, as you know.

The trip computer always show between 13.5 and 14.5 mpg depending on the hilly roads we travel on.

M62 engine, so petrol all the way imo Twisted Evil

Good luck in the hunt for new addition......personally id find another horse......cheaper in the long run Whistle Thumbs Up If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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