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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

bump...

also anyone able to tell me if that plastic pipe is normal in the picture I posted its not connected to anything? Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

The plastic pipe is a vent tube for the front differential. 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 -Maintenance History Click Here = http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html

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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

also have you checked the oil pan for plastic bits ? sounds like metal on metal can could be worse case timing guides where the chains starts hitting metal.. 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 -Maintenance History Click Here = http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

Not checked yet hoping it’s not and sounds different to the other vids I’ve heard of bad guides the noise is coming from close to the water pump going to check it for wobble first as it could be that? Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

this video was when i caught my timing chain issue early. one guide had failed and others were falling apart.

of course mine was all replaced.


This video is when my timing guide began failing coming apart :


There two videos below was when my water pump began to fail, was replaced by LR specialist. it wasn't leaking but had some wobble.

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hope this may help. 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 -Maintenance History Click Here = http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html

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Danwilderspin



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Great I shall have a listen - I should add that the same day it started the coolant warning came on and I was a fair bit of fluid down so hoping it’s pointing that way! Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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hope its a simple water pump its alot cheaper fix Smile 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

Yea me too how many miles had you done before the guides went? Had you ever changed your external tensioner? When I got mine the chain sounded really sloppy so I did the external tensioner and it sounded tight again I wonder if this sometimes gets overlooked and the sloppyness causes the guides to smash apart. Seem to be a mix of
Failure mileage’s and some 200k + still going strong Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
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2002 4.4 V8 FF

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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

the guides went around 90k Miles which is very low.. but was told its more to do with the age of the plastic inside the engine mine car was around 13years old at point the guide faile and the car has had excellent service history. and very well looked after in my owner ship ( http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html )


I believe you are correct the old chain tensionor spring was very soft and could have been this aswell and well it could have certainty been one of the issues when chain slapping about and hitting the hardened plastic. i feel i was just unlucky.. 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 -Maintenance History Click Here = http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic39687.html

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Danwilderspin



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Hmm it hardly sounds like any but the 3rd one is closest I will fire her up tomorrow with an ear out Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
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2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

So I’m impatient

I wobble the viscous fan belt on and watch the pulley - guessing it shouldn’t move like that - bad pump?



Here’s the best noise but it from in front of grill so bad pic



On a side note your video that was the chain guides I have heard that I can’t remember if it was this Range Rover before the tensioner or my e39 m5 I think the m5 and I just lived with it it never got worse though strange Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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that water pump is on its way out as it should not move like that Smile hopefully that will fix your noise 2003 Range Rover 4.4 Litre V8 - Adriatic blue

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Sweet I’m hoping it makes it to the shop and back (10 mile round trip) as that’s all I have to get parts with... at least I have aa Current stable:
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2002 4.4 V8 FF

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Yep that pump is goosed.

Hope you have better luck than me with the waterpump. I fitted a good OEM unit only to have it spring a leak from a dodgy casting two weeks after fitting. No7 - 2003 V8 Vogue

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Really I bought genuine so hoping it doesn’t 4x the price of euro Current stable:
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2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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