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Paul thornton



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Well done! All that was caused by a failed EGR valve...

It reminds me of when I had my e60 bmw 5 series as they had a common issue with the swirl flaps in the inlet manifold failing. The engine would digest them and then that would be game over.

I fitted blanks a soon as I bought it.

I think if I owned a 3.6 I'd be getting the EGR's replaced or blanked straight away.

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kgeddes



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@ Paul thornton: agreed! What a nightmare....my 2010, 3.6 has covered 66k miles....I’m wondering when the EGR valves should be replaced....review by Harry Metcalf (Harry’s Garage) suggests 90k miles....but could that be too late? I always use V-Power diesel which, despite the cost, hopefully helps.....

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Grofus



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Fair play for sorting that lot out yourself. You must feel very chuffed. Great job.
EGR valves are a scurge on modern diesels.
I know of so many engines destroyed by Egr valves.
Not just FFRR but different manufacturers and its always a big bill.
On a fatty I'd map them out and ease the worries.
£400 for a quality map and Egr delete or £600 to replace the Egr's. Pick one option chaps or trouble looms. Just my opinion. 2007 Vogue TDV8 in Zermatt Silver with Charcoal

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kgeddes



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Can anybody recommend a company in central Scotland who will blank/delete the EGR valves in my FF? Thanks in advance Thumbs Up

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j_rov



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Mapping out EGRs wouldn't necessarily prevent an EGR being ingested if it broke off though. It would still be under heat & pressure from the exhaust.

Blanking off (and optionally mapping out) would be a physical barrier to the failure. __
2018 L405 3.0 TDV6 Vogue SE Fuji White
2000 4.6 V8 HSE Oxford Blue
1994 3.9 V8 Vogue Ardennes Green - resto project

Land Rover History:
2010 3.6 TDV8 Autobiography Stornoway Grey
2001 Discovery 2 TD5 GS
1999 Discovery 2 V8i XS
1994 Discovery 300Tdi
1993 Discovery 200Tdi
1989 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.5EFi
1976 Series 3 2.25
1977 Range Rover 2 door 3.5 Carb

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kgeddes



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Excuse my ignorance j-rov but is there a part that breaks free from the EGR valve that is ingested?

If this is the case, I assume, fitting a blanking plate will prevent this happening?

Thanks in advance for clarifying Thumbs Up

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j_rov



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kgeddes

Yes, in this picture you'll see what's left of the valve disc. The missing part was sucked in to the intake and back thru turbo and so on until it was many shards of metal.

A blanking kit consists of a plate which connects to the EGR and a plate that connects to the intake manifold. The existing pipe is removed and therefore a broken EGR valve (or indeed all the exhaust soot) cannot get thru.

Click image to enlarge
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2018 L405 3.0 TDV6 Vogue SE Fuji White
2000 4.6 V8 HSE Oxford Blue
1994 3.9 V8 Vogue Ardennes Green - resto project

Land Rover History:
2010 3.6 TDV8 Autobiography Stornoway Grey
2001 Discovery 2 TD5 GS
1999 Discovery 2 V8i XS
1994 Discovery 300Tdi
1993 Discovery 200Tdi
1989 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.5EFi
1976 Series 3 2.25
1977 Range Rover 2 door 3.5 Carb

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kgeddes



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Many thanks j-rov for explaining and for the photo - appreciated Thumbs Up

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Bigalbarnes



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Hi j-rov , firstly what a great post !! Sadly I’m in the same boat and need to remove my engine ☹️Could you advise me on where you got engine removal brackets from , have looked all over the net and can’t find anything !
Many thanks al

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j_rov



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Bigalbarnes wrote:
Hi j-rov , firstly what a great post !! Sadly I’m in the same boat and need to remove my engine ☹️Could you advise me on where you got engine removal brackets from , have looked all over the net and can’t find anything !
Many thanks al


Hi, i bought them from the engine manufacturer directly. They were very very expensive.

Happy to loan them to you for a refundable deposit and postage cost... __
2018 L405 3.0 TDV6 Vogue SE Fuji White
2000 4.6 V8 HSE Oxford Blue
1994 3.9 V8 Vogue Ardennes Green - resto project

Land Rover History:
2010 3.6 TDV8 Autobiography Stornoway Grey
2001 Discovery 2 TD5 GS
1999 Discovery 2 V8i XS
1994 Discovery 300Tdi
1993 Discovery 200Tdi
1989 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.5EFi
1976 Series 3 2.25
1977 Range Rover 2 door 3.5 Carb

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Strider



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j_rov,
I do all my own work but you sir, have taken DIY to a whole new level Bow down

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Nionios13



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Hi, extremely informative post and well presented! Nice job!

I'm attempting the exact same thing however can't seem to find the engine hoist brackets anywhere.

Called JLR and of course they to don't sell to average joe...

Would anyone have an idea where I might be able to source them from??

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j_rov



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I could loan them you. Would want a refundable deposit and postage covered, that’s all. __
2018 L405 3.0 TDV6 Vogue SE Fuji White
2000 4.6 V8 HSE Oxford Blue
1994 3.9 V8 Vogue Ardennes Green - resto project

Land Rover History:
2010 3.6 TDV8 Autobiography Stornoway Grey
2001 Discovery 2 TD5 GS
1999 Discovery 2 V8i XS
1994 Discovery 300Tdi
1993 Discovery 200Tdi
1989 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.5EFi
1976 Series 3 2.25
1977 Range Rover 2 door 3.5 Carb

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Nionios13



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That would be amazing j_rov!

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Nionios13



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Will pm you now

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