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tboner001



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover TDV8 Autobiography Auto Santorini Black

BigJ wrote:
Japseroony wrote:
tboner001 wrote:
The 2010 onwards cars do have a facility i am told where the newer dealer readers / software can see downloads and uploads via the Eprom chip on the ECU Sad


Hi, are you saying someone is tuning the new ECU's via OBD? If so can you point me in the right direction or let me know what tool they are using?

Thanks.


Me too! AFAIK Tricore Protected are impossible through OBD at present....


Yes correct but BMW one with very similar protection has finally been beaten i am told so holding my breath in hope Smile MY11.5 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Santorini / Ivory Fully Loaded Arrived March 1st Smile
Gone RRS TDV8 2010 Autobiography (with the proper engine)
Gone 2010 RRS TDV8 Mare Friday car Gone Rejected How can they send one out from the factory like this Sad
Gone RRS TDV8 HST MY09 Bullet proof monk Smile never missed a beat. Best looking RRS.
MY11 SDV6 Disco Time will tell.. Very Good so far

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stevecuk



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Japseroony wrote:
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RRUK wrote:
Mention the forum when you go in, it's good for them to know we all communicate and its not just nerds on the tinterweb.


RRUK have you noticed any change in the flat spot when you initially push the accelerator, I was under the impression that a re-map would normally get rid of this?

I'm certainly considering the JE remap for my TDV8, and it would be so much sweeter to finally drive the Range without that huge flat-spot.

Regards,
Steve


Steve,

Try Bell Auto Services on 0871 2884656 and tell him Japseroony sent you from the site and he may do you a deal on a remap and or a switchable re-map.

His kit is really good and it can be done over the phone depending on what you want.


Japseroony, thanks for the thought, but I have made my mind up to go with JE, I've been thinking about it for quite a while and have considered most of the options from the other major remap companies, but the fact JE specialise in Land Rover products, and have remapped their own FFRR and used it for many thousands of miles,

and all of the good reports about JE from forum members makes you feel confident that the remap will not cause any issues in the future.

Regards,
Steve

Post #60137 13th Apr 2011 6:26am
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Japseroony



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Steve,

No worries, don't think you will get better than BAS but each to their own Thumbs Up "UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

Post #60219 13th Apr 2011 8:55pm
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Alistair



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Not enough back to back comparisons - that's the problem !

I had decided to go with JE, but they are only open 9-5 Mon-Fri in Coventry

BAS posts the unit out and you install yourself in about 20 mins - and you can restore back to original if needed & mine came with a 1 year warrany, so I went with that in the end.

I still have niggling doubts that JE would have given me more grunt, but I'll never know unless I decide to pay again.....

i like the fact that JE publish the power/torque graphs - no-one else does that.

Post #60227 13th Apr 2011 9:58pm
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Japseroony



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Alistair wrote:
Not enough back to back comparisons - that's the problem !

I had decided to go with JE, but they are only open 9-5 Mon-Fri in Coventry

BAS posts the unit out and you install yourself in about 20 mins - and you can restore back to original if needed & mine came with a 1 year warrany, so I went with that in the end.

I still have niggling doubts that JE would have given me more grunt, but I'll never know unless I decide to pay again.....

i like the fact that JE publish the power/torque graphs - no-one else does that.


Part of the problem with graphs and figures is that they only tell you facts about just that, who has the most power/torque at a certain point and not about drivability.

More grunt as you say is easily achieved but is the actual drive of the vehicle overall a good one?

As an example, take stage 1 & 2 on a Disco 2. Stage 1 gives you around 160bhp but stage 2 gives more like 185bhp, but the trouble is it only kicks in at the point you wish to change gear and offers very little low down grunt but a big kick just as you reach max revs etc!!

BAS clearly know what they are doing as they were the first to re-map the Defender TDCi and remove the speed limiter, first to re-map the Disco 4 by splitting the ECU and the first to offer a switchable re-map on the RRS, Disco3, Defender and FFRR etc etc.

Just some thoughts from someone that has some limited knowledge in re-mapping. "UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

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tboner001



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Think DMS who are very well known are right up there with proper mapping have been using them for years on all sorts of cars , never had any issues , but not as cheap as many and it often takes far longer than 60 mins as each map is done for each car by downloading looking at the data and installing a baseline then altering to suit that car and your requirements. Including Torque delimiters on the auto box etc. For example my 2009 TDV8 took over 3 hours at the house inc 3 test drives until they were satisfied with the car. MY11.5 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Santorini / Ivory Fully Loaded Arrived March 1st Smile
Gone RRS TDV8 2010 Autobiography (with the proper engine)
Gone 2010 RRS TDV8 Mare Friday car Gone Rejected How can they send one out from the factory like this Sad
Gone RRS TDV8 HST MY09 Bullet proof monk Smile never missed a beat. Best looking RRS.
MY11 SDV6 Disco Time will tell.. Very Good so far

Post #60248 14th Apr 2011 7:37am
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just0007



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It is booked for the remap tomorrow afternoon, I can't wait. I will let them kow about the forum and thanks for the advice. Only issue for me now is it is mainly my wife's car and I have been told not to do it. I am hoping she will believe the difference in power is due to super diesel in the tank. Mr. Green

Post #65669 24th May 2011 10:38pm
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BigJ



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tboner001 wrote:
Think DMS who are very well known are right up there with proper mapping have been using them for years on all sorts of cars , never had any issues , but not as cheap as many and it often takes far longer than 60 mins as each map is done for each car by downloading looking at the data and installing a baseline then altering to suit that car and your requirements. Including Torque delimiters on the auto box etc. For example my 2009 TDV8 took over 3 hours at the house inc 3 test drives until they were satisfied with the car.


It's the only way to map. Not this flash and forget bull... Used to have:
2005 FFRR 4.4 Vogue - BRC LPG Conversion & Remapped

Now have:
2008 SSRR 3.6 TDV8 - HSE and plenty of toys

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just0007



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Fantastic! All done car feels super, fun to drive up hills at speed! Twisted Evil

Post #65966 26th May 2011 11:23pm
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How is it feeling now after a few months? What's the consumption settled down at? Graham

Formerly known as Antoniasdad

GONE: TDV8 FFRR Vogue in Stornoway Grey / Jet
TDV6 Discovery 3 in Stornoway Grey / Alpaca

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just0007



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Still feels great, I didn,t tell my local service department when the car went for new ball joints, when the car was brought round to me the chap was laughing at the way it pulled. It still goes back to land rover for servicing so the fact they noticed without being told is a good sign. With regards to mpg I am not the best person to ask as I tend to drive with my foot down all the time, around town it does about 18 and on the motorway it does a little better. As a comparison I also run a mercedes cls 320cdi with a brabus d6 chip, that is very quick and the mpg on both cars is very similar.

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