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DrRob



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Ring around some other LR specialist garages close to you.
I don’t know any but try Harris-Mayes country cars in Rickmansworth as a start maybe?? Is that close? 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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p38arover



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GAC23 wrote:
How on earth can replacing a few bits of rubber cost £1,600!!!

Because they want to replace the suspension arms too. Surely I don't have to do this?


It's hard to comment because we don't know exactly what is worn and has to be replaced. In the rear, in addition to the outer upper and lower rose joints (all metal pictured earlier), there are the inner bushes on both the upper and lower control arms.

So that's eight bushes and four rose joints.

In the front, there are two bushes each side plus a ball joint which they may also be replacing, 4 bushes and to ball joints in total.

It's probably more cost effective for the dealer to replace the arms which come already fitted with bushes. I know my local indie does this on the D3/D4.

Now, whether the car needs all that is debatable. Ron B. VK2OTC
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John w



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if your dealer charges 150 an hour plus vat like my one does, its easy to rack up a huge labour bill.
Personally I think that is a high price, but I don't know what proportion is the parts vs labour.

If you havent already, ask for a cost break down so you know exactly what they are replacing.
Then you can decide if you want to buy the parts and have them fitted elsewhere.
I would be using an independent, not main dealer. Its also worth travelling if needs be in order to save more (cost vs convenience). Too many toys, not enough time

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GAC23



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According to the main dealer:

Front suspension bushes need replacing.

And the rear subframe bushes are on their way out.


I got this from a (very) trusted local independent specialist:

We have costed this for you and estimate around £1950 + vat @ 20%
Which includes parts and we estimate would take approx. 2 days to complete.
This will include replacing the front lower suspension arms and trailing arms as its a more cost effective way of replacing the bushes and you also get new ball joints, To replace the rear subframe bushes involves bleeding the brakes and driveshaft removal and finally the car would need 4 wheel alignment to reset the steering geometry.
All Nuts, Bolts and hardware removed‚ would also be replaced during this work.


The only things which are broken are some pieces of rubber.

£1950 + vat is a huge amount of money for some rubber I'd say. What do I put here then?

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Boxbrownie



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My indie recently put mine in for its MoT it passed without issue but they did say they noticed the rear subframe bushes are getting worn but not to worry as they take a very long time worn before they need replacing, and yes it is a big job.

They told me not to worry about it, perfectly safe and will go on like this for ages. David

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cass



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I’d question whether the bushes are actually broken, they will always flex a bit which leaves scope for a technician to decide they need changing.
I had a similar report from a Jag main dealer a few years ago along with a similar quote, 2 years 60000 miles and 2 MOTs later I sold it without a single bush being changed.
If they aren’t causing a problem I’d be reluctant to change them.

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GAC23



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Thanks for your comments.

The front bushes are definitely shot.

They make a noise all the time. And the dealer sent me a video showing they're worn.

Not so concerned about the rears - they're only 'on their way out'. So I hope they take as long to wear out as you've said.

Still gobsmacked that pieces of rubber can cost so much to replace.

Have spoken to LR Customer Service in the hope they'll help.

Will keep you posted ... What do I put here then?

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GAC23



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I tried and failed to get some help from LR.

As the car is over 6 years old they won't do anything.

I still think it's absurd the part's only good for 58,000m / 6 years. And replacing bits of rubber can cost so much.

Anyway ...

Looking to source the parts and get a friend or trusted mechanic to fit. Does anyone have the workshop manual pages for replacing:

>> Replace front lower front arms
>> Replace front lower rear arms

Thank you. What do I put here then?

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srpara



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I would replace the bottom ball joint as well while you are doing it but can be a bitch to get out may need to heat it up.
I've just got all the parts to replace mine on both side, all 6 items was under £200 ( Bearmach) but you can get cheaper ones around £120 but I like to use a make that I know

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GAC23



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Thanks, @srpara.

What I still don't understand is why you have to replace the whole front lower front arms and front lower rear arms when it's only the bushes which have failed. What do I put here then?

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srpara



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You can just replace the bushes but would need a bush extraction tool or make something up.
Im a lazy git and just prefer to replace the whole unit , the less faffing about the better ( it's an age thing just ask Stan Whistle )


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GAC23



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Thanks.

I'm on a budget so just the bushes could be the way for now.

Is replacing all the arms i need a long job? What do I put here then?

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Joe90



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If your "rears" are "on their way out" you may start seeing evidence with increased tyre wear on either the inner or outer edges, and that will also impact on your budget! .
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srpara



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That's the cheapest way to do it, only two bushes to replace on the front (each side) just make sure the swivel joints aren't knackered

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GAC23



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Joe90 wrote:
If your "rears" are "on their way out" you may start seeing evidence with increased tyre wear on either the inner or outer edges, and that will also impact on your budget!


- Fair point. What do I put here then?

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