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elpeede

Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
Location: Staffordshire
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2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zambezi Silver

Front mounted towbar.

Ok , I'll be the first to say I'm not overjoyed by the sight of a towbar on Rangies. My rear removable one came with no key so sits on all the time.

I'm looking for any experiences folks have had with front mounted towvbars. We have a large twin axle van.. and while I'd love to shell out £1400 for a motor mover, unfortunately the recent replacement gearbox killed that idea off for the forseeable future.

I thought it may prove useful on tight pitches where sticking your shoulder in is just not a n option due to the weight of the van or slope of a pitch.

So observations please 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

Previous Landrover products -1990 110 TDI CSW, 2003 TD6 Vogue - RRC TD Vogue, RRC v8 Fleetline, Disco ES V8 LPG, 101 Ambulance "Morph", 1964 SIIa Auto Powered by Jag 4.2 Lump - "Percy".

3rd Mar 2011 4:05pm

stan
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found this , 5th item/price down..

http://www.westerntowing.co.uk/acatalog/La...wbars.html

as regards to your non-detachable towbar, you can take the bolt out and remove the whole unit [as i have done].. ... - .- -.

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3rd Mar 2011 4:11pm

dan_uk_1984

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Location: Bude, Cornwall
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2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Tonga Green

scarey wrote:
as regards to your non-detachable towbar, you can take the bolt out and remove the whole unit [as i have done]..

Agreed - if you're going to steal it, you may as well steal the whole unit!

3rd Mar 2011 4:17pm

nick h

Member Since: 26 Jan 2011
Location: notts
Posts: 782

2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Tonga Green

Re: Front mounted towbar.

elpeede wrote:
Ok , I'll be the first to say I'm not overjoyed by the sight of a towbar on Rangies. My rear removable one came with no key so sits on all the time.

I'm looking for any experiences folks have had with front mounted towvbars. We have a large twin axle van.. and while I'd love to shell out £1400 for a motor mover, unfortunately the recent replacement gearbox killed that idea off for the forseeable future.

I thought it may prove useful on tight pitches where sticking your shoulder in is just not a n option due to the weight of the van or slope of a pitch.

So observations please

funny how opinions differ?

to me i'm proud of my rear towbar

says, yes i'm using the car as designed

needless to say i do NOT tow a caravan but a trailer for my offroad mobility buggy that i use for fishing due to disability

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3rd Mar 2011 4:19pm

stan
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these peeps do them as well..

http://www.watling-towbars.co.uk/towbars.html ... - .- -.

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3rd Mar 2011 4:20pm

nbunney

Member Since: 10 Aug 2008
Location: Lancashire
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I have both swan neck and fixed plate, but they both stay in the garage until needed.

Watling I have come across before, but not western towing.

Or you could go on a course on reversing

3rd Mar 2011 4:53pm

elpeede

Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
Location: Staffordshire
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I've one in the post off e-wotsit. Just looking for users views

Noted I could pull the one off the back completely.. but it gets regular use so kind of self defeating, Also saved me a new rer bumper couple of months back 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

Previous Landrover products -1990 110 TDI CSW, 2003 TD6 Vogue - RRC TD Vogue, RRC v8 Fleetline, Disco ES V8 LPG, 101 Ambulance "Morph", 1964 SIIa Auto Powered by Jag 4.2 Lump - "Percy".

3rd Mar 2011 4:54pm

nick h

Member Since: 26 Jan 2011
Location: notts
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elpeede wrote:
I've one in the post off e-wotsit. Just looking for users views

Noted I could pull the one off the back completely.. but it gets regular use so kind of self defeating, Also saved me a new rer bumper couple of months back

yes, the towbar is an excellent 'rear protection system'

hell, if a Prius drove onto the towbar and got stuck you could drive several hundred miles at 100mph+ and never realised you were 'towing' it

3rd Mar 2011 5:10pm

elpeede

Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
Location: Staffordshire
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no need for a course.. I just need the extra flexibility a front towbar affords given the wheels on the car closest to the tow point are steerable rather than fixed. The Pitches in Italy and Biarritz get quite tight as David will be aware (he spotted us there last summer). 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

Previous Landrover products -1990 110 TDI CSW, 2003 TD6 Vogue - RRC TD Vogue, RRC v8 Fleetline, Disco ES V8 LPG, 101 Ambulance "Morph", 1964 SIIa Auto Powered by Jag 4.2 Lump - "Percy".

3rd Mar 2011 5:13pm

Havank

Member Since: 05 Apr 2007
Location: Woking - Surrey
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How long is yoru double axle trailer? as you know the longer they are , the easier it is

3rd Mar 2011 5:13pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

Member Since: 22 Jan 2010
Location: Chilterns, UK
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Talking of "Tight" Italian Camping pitches we arrived in our 8.2m Frankia i820RD at "Camping Del La Mare" (Bartholomu De Mare - Italian Riviera) at 11.30pm after an 8 hour drive from Davos (Mountain Route) to be confronted with a tight hairpin down a steep slope to a tight entrance to site then was confronted with this and our Van' is 2.80m wide:

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Once jammed in through the tunnel (2 inches either side and roof) it was quickly obvious the right angle site roads where simply to tight for 28 foot plus Van' but after a 480 point reverse turn we were able to back up the "path" and drive into this:

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In the morning it turned out to be worth the hassle as next to our pitch we had this:

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However I spent the next four days pondering how I was going to get out and walked the route many times before deciding it was impossible! In the end we got out and through the tunnel but only after a lot of sweat and tears....

3rd Mar 2011 5:36pm

elpeede

Member Since: 09 Mar 2010
Location: Staffordshire
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7.8m .. with a width of 7 feet track to turn it 90 degrees on to a pitch 8m long (so you have 20 cm to shuffle in, obstacles on the opposite sides being other caravan hitches waiting to tear the sides out of your car, and stationary unattended vehicles. Generally you are right .. twin axles though are somewhat more difficult to pitch just so as they don't turn on a sixpence once disconnected from the vehicle, unlike a single axle. Its the finer pitch manouvering that can't be done with the vehicle connected generally and is typically done with a motor mover (see my first post) or by generally putting several peoples backs out (I have a whole range of T-shirts). Even with motor movers fitted a twin axle can't 360 on its own axis which a single axle can.. if of course you felt the need.

Getting on UK Pitches is never an issue, which speaks volumes of the UK weather. I have to say the tightest pitches in Europe I have been on are in Italy. 2010 Disco XS TDV6, 2009 Freelander 2 GS

Previous Landrover products -1990 110 TDI CSW, 2003 TD6 Vogue - RRC TD Vogue, RRC v8 Fleetline, Disco ES V8 LPG, 101 Ambulance "Morph", 1964 SIIa Auto Powered by Jag 4.2 Lump - "Percy".

3rd Mar 2011 5:45pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

Member Since: 22 Jan 2010
Location: Chilterns, UK
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And our Frankia is "Twin Axle" as well....

3rd Mar 2011 5:49pm

Tim in Scotland

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2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I've never seen a FFRR L322 with a front tow bar................... could it be that you have to hack too much body away to get to a strong enough piece of car to fix a front tow hook too? Even though one of those sites says no need to cut body panels I wouldn't want to hack a bit out of the sump guard. I know plenty of folks with them on Defenders and Shoguns. 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - itâ€™s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

3rd Mar 2011 5:57pm

nbunney

Member Since: 10 Aug 2008
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2031

Watling say no cut

3rd Mar 2011 6:48pm

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