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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver
Some news that nobody with a 4.2 wants to read...

Hi all..

So as you may have seen since getting my beast I have been fire fighting issue after issue and it appeared there was a light at the end of the tunnel - the interior lights need sorting and the engine had a very very slight rough idle.

First problem aside the plan was to get it converted it lpg.

Before converting the fitter wanted to make sure it was running pukka on petrol. So I changed the filter ran some injector cleaner through new Maf smoke tested and replaced some hoses. Although marginally better the combine short term fuel trims for each bank were still 20+ and nothing was leaking anywhere out with smoke after testing again.

Then had the computer on there and the live misfire counter was occasionally chucking one or two random cylinders in (most went in)

Anyway today did a leak down test and the found 2 cylinders with 150psi and 6 with 120psi... and here’s the kicker... they are now reckoning it has vsr - something which looking on here is considered a gas only problem!

Has anyone had any experiences like this and what kind of costs have you looked at to have it done - lowest I’ve been quoted so far is £2500 +vat with new chain and guides while it’s all open Big Cry Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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MattHughes86



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Zambezi Silver

Out of interest, what is VSR?

im currently doing the head gaskets on our 07 SC, was quoted roughly 5-6K for the job.....

im only 4 months in.....

but im almost ready to remove heads, i took the old gas system off as it was a poor install.

Matt If In Doubt Give It A Clout

Previous Vehicles:
Land Rover 110 3.5 V8 (is my dads though)
1.9TD Seat Toledo
1.4 Rover 214 (dont ask)
2.0 Nissan Primera SLX (i want it back)
1.4 Seat Ibiza
996cc Toyota Aygo (I miss this car???)

04 TD5 Discovery 2 (my Current Car)
07 4.2 SC FF (wifes car)

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

valve seat regression - its since ford took over the engines apparently and used much softer metal for the valve seats compared to the Bmw counterparts.

As mentioned his can happen on petrol but is accelerated with lag especially if the the lag has no oiling system.

Is t too late to run a compression test? if you have to get the heads off anyway its seems a no brainer to take them to a shop and get them to regrind the seats - you'll be kicking yourself if in 20k you're doing the job again... Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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dhallworth



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I remember reading somewhere that JE Engineering replace the valve seats with hardened ones so that you can run LPG without any issues.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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Danwilderspin



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yes I read that too but I've also read if you have a good clean base car ad its set up right there are people on here with 70k plus on lpg no issues Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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dhallworth



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Yea, sounds like you've been really unlucky. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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Danwilderspin



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apparently if you remove the oil cap while idle running the engine should die if its working correctly - mine doesn't seem to - it would be good for someone with well running one to try and hear if this is indeed the case! Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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appj62



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Why would it stop? Previous cars:
S-Max 2007-2013 (only diesel I've had, good car but expensive when diesely bits go wrong, so what's the point?)
Galaxy 2001-2007
Mondeo Estate 1997-2001
Sierra Estate 1993-1997
Uno Turbo 1987 -1993
Fiesta 1984 - 1987
Fiat 127 1982 - 1984

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appj62



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Just been out in the wind and rain. Engine note changes but doesn't stop! Previous cars:
S-Max 2007-2013 (only diesel I've had, good car but expensive when diesely bits go wrong, so what's the point?)
Galaxy 2001-2007
Mondeo Estate 1997-2001
Sierra Estate 1993-1997
Uno Turbo 1987 -1993
Fiesta 1984 - 1987
Fiat 127 1982 - 1984

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MattHughes86



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Zambezi Silver

im already to far in to do a compression test now.




just need to lock the crank, then the chains are coming off.

Matt If In Doubt Give It A Clout

Previous Vehicles:
Land Rover 110 3.5 V8 (is my dads though)
1.9TD Seat Toledo
1.4 Rover 214 (dont ask)
2.0 Nissan Primera SLX (i want it back)
1.4 Seat Ibiza
996cc Toyota Aygo (I miss this car???)

04 TD5 Discovery 2 (my Current Car)
07 4.2 SC FF (wifes car)

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Danwilderspin



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Zermatt Silver

appj62 wrote:
Just been out in the wind and rain. Engine note changes but doesn't stop!



Good question - the place mines at said that it would introduce unmetered air past the airflow meter and cause it to stop - if you have vsr the it can get in out the valves or something like that apparently...

Thanks for that how many miles are you on? Current stable:
2006 BMW M6
2007 4.2 V8 S/C FF
Gone:
2002 4.4 V8 FF

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