Afternoon all,

I currently run (a very deliberate purchase) an early Disco 4 3.0 without a DPF. Before you all rush off for the tar and feathers, yes, I know this the FFRR forum, but stay with me please and I’ll explain.

I don’t do many miles, perhaps 8,000 a year, and far less than that this last year with the pesky virus surging about. I’m on 124,000, so (hopefully) have many more to do in the beastie.

But…

In case things change I like to plan ahead. Project managers know the drill, the 6Ps - Preparation and Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

So…

Having owned a couple of classic RRs back in the day I’m considering returning to the fold.

The 4.4V8 reads as being a good engine, plenty of oomph, not much in the way of issues. BUT I’m fairly sure that with my modest usage a DPF could (would?) spell trouble.

As an alternative I’ve read about the 3.6V8, which, if I’ve understood it correctly, could have had a DPF optioned into the build in the last couple of years, but I suspect it would not exactly have been high on a purchasers wanted list.

Again, if I have it right, a 3.6V8 with a BAS remap has power and torque figures that are very close to a 4.4V8, so I’m thinking that could be a pathway forward if the 4.4 always has a DPF.

I’ve said enough, I reckon, so I hope those with more knowledge and experience will let me know what they think.

Cheers,

Stockers

The 4.4 always has the DPF in the UK. It’s a legal requirement.

A mapped 3.6 might be similar on figures, but it won’t have the awesome 8 speed gearbox attached to it.

In 2 years, I’ve done 2513 miles in my 4.4 TDV8. Just make sure you get the second turbo spun up regularly.....

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

4.4 TDV8 is fine for most normal driving. During Lockdown I did 5 miles 4 times / week at 25mph, every 2-3 weeks I would take it on a 25 mile run at 40-60mph. No probs whatsoever, and I watch my DPF soot the whole time as I did have some problems a few years ago.

Its fine as long as you aren't sat in traffic doing 2 miles at a time....

Good luck!

It’s not the actual dpfs that go t@ts up, its the ancillaries. For instance on mine, the car was working perfectly for 2 years and then the inlet manifold split very slightly which led to RP and then the yellow and red dpf full warnings. The dpf was actually fine (as evidenced by the low through pressure reading when tested.) it was all the sensors misreading, unable to cope with the erroneous readings.

So the upshot is that my advice is go for it. Forget the dpf probs. But don’t get one that has sat in London and done low miles. Far better a hi mileage motorway muncher.

Mine was 83,000 miles and 6 years old and the only probs were the inlet manifold which is a known prob on all the engines, especially 3L on Jag and ffsports.

Now on 105,000 and going strong. Was going to change for a 405 bit decided to keep her and see how we go.

Some really interesting feedback and information. Thanks to all.

I agree that a vehicle with more miles can be a good bet, providing, of course it’s been well looked after. To me it says it hasn’t been sitting around with this, that or the other to be sorted. Cars ‘like’ to be used. My Disco had done 77,000 in five years before she became mine.

I’ve also had to have one of the inlet manifolds done on my 3.0V6. Not cheap, but then, anyone expecting these vehicles to be cheap, especially when I’m no kind of mechanic, is going to be disappointed. I’m pretty sure for all of us here the pleasure of ownership is far higher than the money we pay out to make it happen.

The 4.4 is sounding ever more tempting. I know there are many good reasons to buy a 405 but I think the look of the 322 is more classic. We’ll have to see. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Stockers.

The general consensus seems to be that the L405 is a better car, but the L322 is a better Range Rover.....

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

mjdronfield wrote:

The 4.4 always has the DPF in the UK. It’s a legal requirement.

A mapped 3.6 might be similar on figures, but it won’t have the awesome 8 speed gearbox attached to it.

The 4.4 TDV8 always had the 8 speed gearbox fitted. It’s the one with the rotary dial.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

mjdronfield wrote:

The general consensus seems to be that the L405 is a better car, but the L322 is a better Range Rover.....

+1  2010 Range Rover TDV8 Baltic Blue Autobiography (2011 MY) - SOLD
1960 Land Rover SII SWB SW
2020 BMW R1250 RT LE
2021 Triton ST-125 (Monkey Bike)

mjdronfield wrote:

The 4.4 TDV8 always had the 8 speed gearbox fitted. It’s the one with the rotary dial.

This is what confused me. IID thinks it is six speed for some reason.

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Don't worry, the IID tool reports all the 8 speed automatics as 6 speed  2011 TDV8 Vogue SE

If you only do that sort of mileage, why not get the petrol, no nasty devils juice problems....  Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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I’ve owned 2 x 3.0 SDV6 D4’s and the SDV8 Fatty and loved them both but at that kind of mileage, I would only look at the V8 petrol as well