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| MJGH Member Since: 15 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 96   
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Apparently the can bus on the L405 is being accessed by cutting a small hole in the rear tail gate.
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17th Apr 2023 11:51pm |
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| Kot Member Since: 10 Mar 2021 Location: broadland Posts: 1089
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The RAV in question didn't have Ghost fitted, so it cant be presumed either way.
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18th Apr 2023 8:18am |
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| stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 34918
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it happened to this chaps sport,
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18th Apr 2023 8:44am |
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| dingg1 Member Since: 29 Jun 2013 Location: PORTUGAL Posts: 1271 
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Happens on alpha romeo quadrifoglio which has the radar sensor on the front, they plug into it and car gone in a minute 👀 |
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18th Apr 2023 8:56am |
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| James W Member Since: 29 Nov 2009 Location: Wirral Posts: 284 
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I'm thinking it really is time to buy a large yellow disklok FFRR SDV8 Autobiography |
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18th Apr 2023 9:29am |
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| calicoj Member Since: 18 Dec 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 39 
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Maybe, maybe not. I looked into the Ghost system when I joined this sub after buying a used L405 and after finding out more about its origins, I decided against it. As you may or may not know, Ghost and Autowatch are UK-created names for a Russian product called IGLA. While the French distributor refused to go into the reasons for the UK name change, my personal theory is that many people would think twice about buying an immobilizer system that's designed and manufactured by Russian hackers. In Russia. Which begs the question: why doesn't Autowatch disclose the origins of their star product? Aside from the global anti-Russian sentiment going around, your guess is as good as mine, but ultimately, my point is this: it might be that Ghost stickers will attract the wrong type of thief, if you catch my drift. Anyhoo, here's IGLA's website, based in Russia, if you're interested: https://iglaglobal.com/Products IGLA's product that's sold by Autowatch under the Ghost II moniker is actually the IGLA 231. Now, does anybody happen to know an alternative, technically comparable product that's not made in Russia? Last edited by calicoj on 18th Apr 2023 9:49am. Edited 2 times in total |
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18th Apr 2023 9:47am |
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| Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 7908  
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They then just use bolt cutters to cut a section out of the wheel, all done in about 5seconds...  Pete
__________________________________________________ 2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior 2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold 2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold 2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold -Click for Project Fatty off roader- Last edited by Haylands on 18th Apr 2023 10:24am. Edited 1 time in total |
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18th Apr 2023 9:48am |
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| caymanblack Member Since: 08 Dec 2015 Location: DEVON Posts: 1055 
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TGE Video,s talk about RR,s being stolen when fitted with a Ghost system so it's not as good as one thinks. overfinch modified |
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18th Apr 2023 9:56am |
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| Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 7908
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I came across this the other day, seems similar and "maybe" not from Russia... I have not used it so can't comment... Prices from about £350 installed if you don't book through their website.... https://www.scorpionx.co.uk/ Pete __________________________________________________ 2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior 2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold 2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold 2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold -Click for Project Fatty off roader- |
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18th Apr 2023 10:41am |
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| Philip Member Since: 05 Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2516
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Problem with the CAN Bus thefts is that there’s no proposition of an “official” solution, and the number of L405s and L494s supposedly being stolen is borne out by the insane rises in insurance cost.
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18th Apr 2023 11:14am |
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| Rex the RR Member Since: 15 Nov 2019 Location: Perthshire Posts: 37
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I have Smartrack 5 +imob fitted to another car, immobiliser and tracker in 1. A fob has to be present for the car to start plus the added bonus of a tracker. About £500 fitted and £17 per month for the tracker. Insurance is less than £300 per annum. |
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18th Apr 2023 5:37pm |
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| caymanblack Member Since: 08 Dec 2015 Location: DEVON Posts: 1055
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I have the same Rex, tested it today and it's not working. |
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18th Apr 2023 9:03pm |
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| MrWold Member Since: 26 Feb 2022 Location: West Sussex Posts: 132 
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Right I see now that searching for the one word canbus gives a lot more hits on the forum.
TGE? As per my first post it seems to me the only immobilisers that may have a chance against this sort of attack are the Autowatch Ghost or Scorpion X Series. Chris 2014 FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Barolo Black 2012 RRS SDV6 HSE Baltic Blue and before I saw the light: 2011 Suzuki Grand Vitara SZ5 1998 Ford Mondeo V6 Ghia X 1990 Citroen BX GTi 1973 Triumph GT6 |
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18th Apr 2023 10:32pm |
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| Mangoman2 Member Since: 30 Jan 2011 Location: EU Posts: 6 |
As far as I know its a rebranded Ampire unit from Germany that is ultimately from the Polish company https://www.seoelectronics.pl/ |
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22nd Apr 2023 1:56pm |
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