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johnboyairey Member Since: 11 Jan 2013 Location: surrey Posts: 2032 |
I drive a Ulez affected Range Rover, on occasions but not everyday. I have a work van that’s Ulez compliment which I drive workdays. I work in central London, and the traffic is pathetically slow. The whole of the central zone is max 20mph, and some other outer boroughs are too. By day I see mostly vans and commercial vehicles going about their business. The thing is, that the later diesels that are compliment, are not actually compliment in the environment they drive in. Basically, they idle most of the time and then are revved to pull along one car length, or maybe more in traffic.. so to be ‘clean’ they would need to be driven at around 50mph, on flat roads, so that the software can drop it it to clean mode, and only then it would be clean (ish). That will never happen in London.. So my point is, it’s all rubbish to think that these new vehicles are somehow going to clean the air. And if the older non compliant ones are so bad, why not ban them, or charge them £100.. myself driving occasioanlly with a £12.50 payment here and there isn’t going to change much. The thing is,, parking can be £12.50 an hour on a match day too.
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18th May 2023 7:56am |
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johnboyairey Member Since: 11 Jan 2013 Location: surrey Posts: 2032 |
and this made me chuckle too...
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18th May 2023 8:47am |
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RRover Member Since: 17 May 2021 Location: Sussex Posts: 278 |
YES! The whole thing is a con!!!
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16th Oct 2023 7:13am |
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RRover Member Since: 17 May 2021 Location: Sussex Posts: 278 |
I think the peeps who support this lunacy are either evangelical climate zealot nuts, total virtue signallers, peeps too comfortably off to see the wood for the trees (until the axe comes down for them too) or funded goons!
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16th Oct 2023 7:21am |
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Merchy Member Since: 14 Feb 2021 Location: North Wales Posts: 1172 |
It does not stop, Khan now wants to charge more money to park SUV's See below link for article
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3rd Feb 2024 4:54pm |
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AndyRoo Member Since: 06 Dec 2023 Location: Gloucester Posts: 532 |
Hi, of course it's a con, the whole premise is based on a lie, the worst areas in London are, surprise Surprise, railway stations, trains running their massive engines all hours of the day and night, Electic trains are few and far bewteen.
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3rd Feb 2024 9:01pm |
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Stuart- Member Since: 16 Dec 2017 Location: UK and Hong Kong Posts: 298 |
This.
The whole net-zero thing is a scam. 2017 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography in black 2018 D300 SE Velar in champagne Spiffing wheel centre caps, L322 sill repair panels, etc |
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3rd Feb 2024 11:43pm |
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JayGee Member Since: 27 Jul 2021 Location: London Posts: 3162 |
and the whole anti net-zero thing is a scam. Denying man made climate change is now not a credible position so now the fossil fuel interests are promoting the unaffodability of doing anything about it. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322) |
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4th Feb 2024 10:41am |
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AndyRoo Member Since: 06 Dec 2023 Location: Gloucester Posts: 532 |
Hi, just to clear things up, I am a believer in the fact that man is kiiling this planet, you'd have to be mad to think that we are having anything but a negative impact on the planet and those that share this space with us. Take a stoll along the beach or a river bank, you'll get the picture.
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4th Feb 2024 11:01am |
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Arch Stanton Member Since: 26 Apr 2012 Location: chavshire Posts: 445 |
a degree of scepticism on any scientific theory is healthy, I am uncomfortable with how any contradicting comments are shouted down.
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4th Feb 2024 11:05am |
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SS.Lyria Member Since: 01 Dec 2016 Location: London Posts: 243 |
I think the firework display in London on New Years Eve tells you everything you need to know about Sadiq Kahn. The first drone display where he let us all know that we should all be indebted to him for the following display shows his ego is probably bigger than London.
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4th Feb 2024 3:27pm |
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Barmybrummie Member Since: 03 Apr 2021 Location: Somewhere in the valleys Posts: 653 |
Here's a rather valid point, why don't those who bought diesels back in the 80's after been urged to do so by the government because it was supposedly cleaner and used to be cheaper by about 10p per litre if my mind serves me right, just sue the government? It was them who who urged everyone to go diese,l so now we have to pay for their mistakes? Obviously, diesels have got a lot more cleaner and less polluting than the cars of the 80's and I'm sure the air in London and other major cities are a lot more cleaner than what they was back then.
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4th Feb 2024 3:38pm |
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AndyRoo Member Since: 06 Dec 2023 Location: Gloucester Posts: 532 |
Hi, It's not the Government per se and you can't sue them unless you can prove negligence. They will just say they were badly advised and slime their way out of it. Same as they don't actually have to deliveron their election promises.
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4th Feb 2024 4:19pm |
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Gsxr1250dave Member Since: 20 Oct 2018 Location: London Posts: 879 |
Yes it's a con I now have to run a 4.2 v8 supercharge sport a d3 v8 petrol iv laid my v8 m62 petrol up for a bit but swopping it with my mate for a while for his 4.2 supercharged L322 as my L322 is not compliant.
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4th Feb 2024 8:12pm |
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