Having got a new FF and been to the local LR experience to learn how the toys work, I decided it was time to go and explore its capabilities. We have an old quary with a fair variety of slopes and as it had rained, plenty of wet grass with varying gradients.
As always the heavily road biased tyres were the bigest weeknes, on balance not realy better nor worse than any of its predesessors.
Would still rather decend in a TD5 90. letters not necessarily in the right order

Dixy wrote:

Would still rather decend in a TD5 90.

Interesting, can you point me in the right direction of TD5 descending hints and tips. I'm rubbish in the Defender and our drive is long and steep....much preferred it in the FFRR using HDC in the snow and ice, rather than the Defender....but I think I need to use the low ratio ooojimiflip properly then I'll be ok.

So if you or anyone has a link to instructions for this, I'd appreciate it. Good to get prepp'd for winter

to be honest you shouldn't use low ratio on the road.

if you keep your 90 in high 1st gear and just let the car drive along slowly you should be ok. obviously cover the brakes just incase, but try not to make any sharp or sudden inputs and all should be well.

i think people should learn to drive off road in something like a Td5 or even better a series truck and you will then fully appreciate you electric gadgetry. Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



Past: TDV8(4.4) Vogue
Discovery 3 Commercial
TDV8(3.6) Vogue
TD6 Vogue
D2 V8 ES
D1 V8 ES
RR Vogue Classic

Dixy, I have to disagree. While the P38 was a marked step up in comfort over my RRC's, its electronics didn't really imress me off road - especially the ABS which downright scared the beejezus out of me on mud and gravel more than once. The L322 is a different animal altogether. HDC is superb as is the TC. And suspension articulation is unmatched.
The L322 makes easy what in the RRC/DiscoI/Def was real work.

Huge difference between earlier LRs and the latest gen (L322, D3/RRS) IMO. A shame most of these will never be used like this in their lifetimes. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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Tomw2000 wrote:

Dixy wrote:

Would still rather decend in a TD5 90.

Interesting, can you point me in the right direction of TD5 descending hints and tips. I'm rubbish in the Defender and our drive is long and steep....much preferred it in the FFRR using HDC in the snow and ice, rather than the Defender....but I think I need to use the low ratio ooojimiflip properly then I'll be ok.

So if you or anyone has a link to instructions for this, I'd appreciate it. Good to get prepp'd for winter

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Tips on downhills at 2:30 and 3:20. It hasn't really changed since then.  
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

I am lucky enough to have a disused quary to play in, the IIa has oodles of character but the FF and the 90 TD5 are so far ahead, the awsome power and control of the FF going up is astonishing even on the Pirelis, but when coming down the only thing I prefer to the TD5 are my Volkl skis.
On snow and ice, low ratio 1st, dif lock and keep your feet off everything and look where you want it to go. letters not necessarily in the right order

Huh. Well aside from 10", your 90 isn't really any different than my RRCs. And given the same slope, same tires, and same conditions I'd take the L322 any day.

Just out of curiosity: why should the 90 be better? Aside fro HDC, you can drop the l322 into low and 1st if you like too...

I play in the Vosges mountains 20 mins from home.  
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Having had 4 classics, all petrol, I can honestly say there is far more than 10" that differenciate them from a Deffender.
Good point you make about the HDC, I have always had it on and that may be part of my disquiet, good excuse for a play. Suspect tyres are the biggest variable.
When all said and done they are both stunning and the weakest link is the nut that holds the steering wheel. letters not necessarily in the right order