Ok, from my other posts some of you may have seen that I am now the proud owner of a hawkeye with red dongle.

But to my complete disappointment, the flaming thing doesn't seem to calibrate the eas air suspension on my 2003 l322 although it was clearly marked in the documentation that programming the suspension was included ( and I in my naivety believed that would include calibration). I've got a bit of a leftward lean on since doing some wading in last weeks floods. hence the purchase.

So my question is, what would be the best tool, for a similar price that will calibrate the suspension?

Thanks in advance

That'll be the IID tool then!  Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

I have RSW All Comms, that will do it.

http://www.rswsolutions.com/index.php?opti...;Itemid=81

There is also an EAS device, that just does suspension, so is a bit cheaper......but I'm not sure it does the calibration bit.

The IID Tool looks very good, but I'd already got a laptop to use with the car, and more importantly, have the pixel issue on the instrument cluster, so wouldn't see what the IID Tool was telling me.

If I'd not got the pixel issue, I may how gone the IID Tool route........... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

all comms is looking good to be honest and not badly priced either. I may just be getting in touch with mr storey wilson

Has anyone had anything to do with the drew technologies mongoose jlr?

some literature states that they're as functional as the t4

would be interested to know as again they're not too badly priced

Hi dogswick,
The mongoose will be as functional as the T4 / IDS as it is the new official LR diagnostic tool. You do have to be aware that the mongoose requires a subscription to work, tho. Check LR Topix (this from through mongoose website)
  1 hour £144-90, 1 Day £170.10, 1 Week £296.10, 1 Month £485.10, 1 Year £737-10 (All inclusive of UK VAT). These prices are subject to change and are therefore a guide only

There is a major difference or two between the IIDTool and the AllComms as well: the AllComms is not VIN limited and the IIDTool can do considerably more. There is also BlackboxSolutions to consider if you are serious about purchasing a LR diagnostic tool.

To be sure, I am not objective as I am part of GAP Diagnostc, makers of the IIDTool.

Cheers,
Steve 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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mjdronfield wrote:

have the pixel issue on the instrument cluster, so wouldn't see what the IID Tool was telling me.

If I'd not got the pixel issue, I may how gone the IID Tool route...........

Thanks. The pixel issue is the last "defect" to fix. There is a chap in Southampton that is recommended on here, but its a good run and I don't fancy taking the instrument cluster out and posting it off.

I have taken the dash top off before, so you could argue I was nearly there !!

Mark 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

As far as I can remember, you were within three torx scews!

I have to say that going for the iidtool was what sped up my pixel repair!

And allowed me to track down my EAS issue - which ended up being an eratic fault with the steering wheel sensor - it was only seeing live values that allowed me to track this down! l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

2002 4.4 Vogue Java Black

Thanks for the advice people.
I was looking at the faultmate msv2 but it's one of those thats locked to a single vin and it's around £1000 with the software
the all comms is looking good for the money, to be honest, in hindsight maybe should have bought that first.
I really think that vin locking is questionable. I appreciate that the people who develop these products need to make a living and are indeed perfectly entitled to make a profit from their hard work. But it just seems like you buy something outright then told where you can use it. It's like paying for a knife and fork and then being told you can only eat food you've bought from sainsbury's with them. I don't want or need to make a living with my LR tools but it's always good to be able to help out a like minded person who isn't fortunate enough to own a diagnostic.
Anyway, all that said, I think I may end up biting the bullet and taking it down to my local independent who owns an autologic. goes against the grain a little but I do now have a hawkeye and hopefully the suspension calibration is a 'one off'

Pm piecost76. He has an hawkeye and has told me you can calibrate the suspension with it.

Hi dogswick,
I do think you are seeing this from the wrong angle: first, comparing a diagnostic tool to a knife and fork is a bit like comparing a smartphone to two cans and a bit of string and second, you have to see it not as our limiting the use of the diagnostic tool but as our giving you access to something that would have otherwise cost much, much more. And additional IIDTool VIN licenses can be purchased for a relatively small surcharge.

It is a very simple calculation: we have invested a large amount of resources and time in the development of these products. We need to sell a certain number of units at cost x to break even long before we even start 'making a living'. The lower x is, the more we need to sell.

Have you priced an Autologic lately? Or an IDS (and I do not mean the Chinese clones - though even those are expensive compared to the IIDTool)? BBS dropped the price considerably over these units while offering similar functionality. X became lower so the number of units sold had to rise which meant that the number of very benevolent persons offering the use of their diagnostic tool to others had to be reduced - hence the licenses.

We offer functionality on a similar level at a much lower price. But we need to sell even more to make that difference up.

See it not as us allowing you to eat only Sainsbury's food - see it as us giving you access to gourmet food at a buffet price. Speaking of which, my daughter asked the other day when we were at a restaurant offering a buffet why she and her sister couldn't just share the all-you-can-eat buffet menu...
 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

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SparkyPhil wrote:

Pm piecost76. He has an hawkeye and has told me you can calibrate the suspension with it.

Not unless something has been changed very recently... 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Depends what is meant by "callibration"

Version 5 can:

Read & Clear DTCs
Show live data
Show ECM Data
Open actuators
Programme system

http://www.bearmach.com/files/_download-fi...20List.pdf Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

15 MY 110 XS USW

54 FFRR Vogue TD6 Touchscreen - Gone!
56 FFRR TDV8 VSE - Gone!

Calibration is calibrating the corner heights on the EAS - for instance after replacing a height sensor.

I was told by Bearmach that in its present iteration, the Hawkeye can not do this. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Probably the wrong guy to ask but what do they mean by "Program System" then?

I have not had to use this part...yet! Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

15 MY 110 XS USW

54 FFRR Vogue TD6 Touchscreen - Gone!
56 FFRR TDV8 VSE - Gone!