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ikilla2



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2003 Range Rover HSE Td6 Stornoway Grey
Anyone used/ seen this gadget?

I stumbled across this interesting little number this morning when searching for an OBD diag tool.

Wireless diag tool

Thoughts?

Post #164178 13th Jan 2013 11:21am
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SteveMFr
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Going Bluetooth is cool, but all you are going to get is the same OBD access as with a GBP 25 code reader. You will not be able to access any LR specific systems.

Posted this a couple of days ago. This explains a little more.

There does not seem to be much clarity on fault code readers and what to expect when you (try to) use one. Here's a short explanation (that still ended up long...)

You have to separate different DTCs (Diagnostic trouble codes or simply faults) into various categories:

- generic OBD codes: these are all the emissions related codes that come from the drivetrain (motor and transmission). These are standardized across all manufacturers so that they can be read all over the world at emissions testing stations. There are OBD readers starting at GBP20-30 that do a fine job of reading these. Some even manage to clear fault codes.
- manufacturer specific codes: all the rest of the systems on the vehicle. In a Hyundai that is probably not too much, but in the L322 it is quite a bit - and many items such as the EAS, ABS, DSC, etc. are vital for vehicle operation as well. These can only be read by manufacturer specific code readers.

You can also separate the diagnostic systems into different categories:

- generic code readers: only emissions related OBD codes. Start at GBP20-30. Some of the more expensive ones may include live values (engine/trans only) and the non-generic ability to clear SRS faults (turn off airbag light) which makes them attractive for small, independent repair facilities.
- manufacturer specific fault code readers: can only read and clear faults. Shows no live values, allows no manual component activation/testing, no vehicle programming, etc. The only 'pure' fault code read/clear device for LR vehicles is the Blackbox FCR.
- manufacturer specific diagnostic systems more for personal than professional use: allow some or all of the functions of a full diagnostic system: live values, manual component activation/testing, vehicle programming, etc. Depending on the cost, these may or may not be locked to one vehicle VIN and have increasingly more functionality with increasing price (our IIDTool is a bit of an exception here - see below). These start at the low end with the RoverAllComms (only early L322) and Hawkeye, and go through our IIDTool and the Blackbox Faultmate. The latter 2 are VIN locked.
- professional diagnostic systems: these include the OEM LR IDS/SDD, Autologic, Blackbox Faultmate, and IIDTool Pro (coming end of 1st quarter 2013 )

Explanation on the IIDTool pricing vs. functionality: the IIDTool is extremely capable - especially at the price it sells for. We specifically looked to partner with a large retailer in order to be able to sell larger volumes and keep the price very competitive: in our case this worked out well with Britpart as our distribution partner. We also used the vehicle as an 'interface' to keep hardware costs low (thus Integrated Interface Diagnostic Tool). Essentially, the IIDTool provides the same functionality as diagnostic systems costing 3-4x as much.

HTH 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Post #164191 13th Jan 2013 12:31pm
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these bluetooth things are ok for reading only but leave it plugged in and your battery will be flat by the morning.. ... - .- -.




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Post #164193 13th Jan 2013 12:42pm
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Get a generic ELM 327 bluetooth OBDII reader and then use app software (Android/Apple) for accessing codes. But just for fun. Unlikely you will get any serious work done with it. .
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Post #164195 13th Jan 2013 12:46pm
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