My next bulbs to look at changing will be the front indicator bulbs. But finding a good led bulb for this job is proving difficult. I have seen 2 bulbs in particular that seem suitable, but they cost a fair bit. I have posted them below and would welcome feedback especially if anyone has tried them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111085671065?ssP...1438.l2649
This one is rated at 30watts!!! Is that going to be a problem in place of the 21 watt standard bulb. Also its 850 lumen, is that a bit too bright? And these cost £30 a pair!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320777100341?ssP...1438.l2649
This bulb is a more reasonable 7watts but 400 lumen. Is this brighter or dimmer than a 21 watt incandescent orange bulb? Still £20 for a pair!!

very expensive but is it worth changing these as they do function well as they are.. ... - .- -.




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@ Prop - "My next bulbs to look at changing will be the front indicator bulbs... I have seen... bulbs in particular that seem suitable... I have posted them below and would welcome feedback especially if anyone has tried them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111085671065?ssP...1438.l2649

The advert description says "in very rare cases, some vehicles do require additional resistance or decoders."

Of the 2 bulb types you have found, my inclination if all legal and not going to damage anything would be to opt for the £30 bulbs, but, is the L322 RR one of those rare cases or not (does anyone know)?

My reason for wanting brighter front indicators is due to seeing other 2006/9 Range Rovers and in my opinion both the front and rear indicators would benefit from being brighter. I'm not saying the standard indicator bulbs are bad but a bit brighter is something I would prefer.

I also prefer the snappiness of the on/off switching of the leds over incandescent bulbs.

i'd be interested in your opinion in whether they are better with smds or not Prop.. ... - .- -.




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As to the need for resistors in rare cases, I think this is a standard statement a lot of sellers make to cover themselves. If indeed these are 30 watt units then I would imagine there is definitely no need to add resistance, in fact I would be more worried that the 30watt bulbs have some other affect on the electrics driving them as these bulbs are drawing 9 watts more power.

i found this video in an ebay listing and i can see the advantage if these bulbs were fitted to the rear of the range....you should see them better with the brake light on...
these are amber ones which will be fine for the clear s/c light units..


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Interesting,

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic102948.html

Stan,

I guess your referring to these bulbs.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CORSA-C...27d3b09a92

Would prefer to see a picture of the actual bulb and some wattage and lumen output. All a bit to vague to throw £35 a pair at.

Got to say the video does show the difference between incandescent and LED bulbs well. Would imagine these bulbs will make both the front or rear indicators a lot more visible, but as you say the rear light design would definitely benefit from these bulbs for sure.

you mentioned the 'snappiness' of the smds in a previous post and the video certainly does show the difference..

it is a lot on money and you would have to get a spare i suppose..i've trolled ebay for a better price for the amber bulbs but there's nothing about ..

@NDFI, those would have to be somehow made to fit the brackets in the range.. ... - .- -.




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All progressive and interesting replies. Those pictured rear indicator bulbs certainly look impressive on performance and I can imagine them looking 'just so' if fitted into the clear rear of a SC RR unit.

Just a thought... Re the 2010MY or newer L322 and for those with the 2010MY conversion, are all of these bulb 'upgrades' mooted on this thread relevant to those cars or do those cars have newer and better lighting systems/ bulbs anyway?

Thanks.

Ok did a bit of checking and the bulbs that Stan showed a video link to are made up of 12 SMD leds with 1 Q5 CREE forward firing led behind a lens. These cost £35 a pair link below.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CORSA-C...27d3b09a92

Now the first ones I linked to would appear to be exactly the same spec, ie 12 SMDs and 1 x Q5 CREE led behind a lens, which would lead me to believe they are almost certainly the same bulbs or at-least very similar. Only major difference is the price as these ones are £20 a pair so are £15 cheaper.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320777100341?ssP...1438.l2649

So looking at the specs and the prices it would appear to me that the £20 a pair indicator bulbs are much better value for money. Almost definitely the same bulbs as they have the same amount of SMD's and CREE's fitted they should be of equal brightness.

I managed to find out the lumen output of an amber PY21W incandescent light bulb in the link below which is 280 lumen. So these LED replacement are 400 lumen which means the LED bulbs should be approx 50% brighter. However in reality it will look much more as the start up/warmup nature of the incandescent bulbs means it attains its maximum brightness for a much shorter period of time before it switches off due to the slow start up time of incandescent bulbs during the flashing sequence, where as the LED bulbs will light up much quicker at maximum lumen output almost instantly.

http://catalog.gelighting.com/lamp/automot...=0/?r=emea

interesting that Prop..i certainly think the instant 'full power' brightness of the smd would benefit the rear lights and help indicator light be more visible against the brake light..

i've trolled ebay again and found a couple of supposedly UK suppliers ,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111085671065?ssP...1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370929747629?ssP...1438.l2649 ... - .- -.




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A very short range from a UK supplier here...

http://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/01-led--smd-products-250-c.asp Paul Redding
+44 (0)23 8052 2760
paul@advancedfactors.co.uk

Stan,

The 1st link you found is for the same bulb I mentioned in my 1st link when I posted about 2 bulbs. These are very bright but I am not to sure on the negative effect of running a 30watt bulb on a circuit designed to only run a 21watt load.

The 2nd bulb is rated at 60watts which is nearly 3 times the rated wattage of the standard bulb and I would definitely not want to put anything with this high a power rating on the indicator wiring or circuits.

I can't honestly say I would recommend any bulb rated at a higher wattage / power consumption than the standard bulb fitted. The UK spec cars currently use 21watt bulbs for front and rear indicators. So for safety sake I would say that anything above 21watt should be avoided.

So currently it still looks like the 7 watt 12 SMD and 1 CREE LED bulb is the safest bet. As its still about 50% brighter than standard, and will not draw too much current to stress either the wiring or the cam-bus circuits. It's just a shame the seller of this bulb is not UK based as it means a 10 to 20 business day wait for the items to arrive.