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Mph28mph



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Giverny Green
Air suspension quick fix?

Air suspension has totally packed up.
Rear of the car the right height
The front is all the way down
Air suspension inactive warning message on dash
Stability warning also on dash max 35mph.

What I am after is a way to raise the front up to make it drivable.
I don't have any diagnostic tools so I am after getting it to the garage.

If a short the compressor relay out will the compressor run and lift the front?

Any ideas other than buy a IID tool.

Cheers

Post #238083 29th Jan 2014 10:43pm
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Contraband



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Has a bag or hose split at the front? Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Post #238087 29th Jan 2014 10:51pm
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Mph28mph



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Not been under the car yet, I was kinda hoping a diagnostic would tell me.
The whole front is down though not just one corner

Post #238089 29th Jan 2014 10:54pm
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Joe90



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Any lights on the dash for air suspension e.g. the normal ride / motorway lights? If no lights there it will need a hard reset (diagnostics required Sad)

try battery disconnection, this might do something? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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Mph28mph



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

Joe90
No lights on the control.
I have done a battery disconnect and touch the leads together.
Turned steering full left to full right nothing works.
Read loads on here but not seen if it's possible to "trick" to ecu and pump the suspension up manually.
I just want to raise it a little to make it drivable

Post #238105 29th Jan 2014 11:20pm
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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Sorry pal but you can't... If the problem is a simple height sensor issue and you drive it, you risk wrecking the front bags eeek Confused

Post #238161 30th Jan 2014 1:23am
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Joe90



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Unless you are lucky and it automagically comes to life (its been known to happen) you will need Allcoms/IIDTool/Hawkeye/T4 to bring suspension back to life, there is no quick fix / shortcut for this one Big Cry .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember Wink
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

Post #238162 30th Jan 2014 1:24am
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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Breakdown cover? Get the AA/RAC out? Technically unroadworthy...

Post #238164 30th Jan 2014 1:30am
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Mph28mph



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No aa/RAC home start.
Looks like an IID purchase
Censored bye bye £300 and that's just to diagnose the fault.

Post #238165 30th Jan 2014 1:35am
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stuboy00



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Exactly what happened to me on New Year's Day one of my front bag's burst and it's totally undriveable, be careful because the whole system will discharge the more you Censored about with it and the whole thing drops onto the bump stops get it to a garage or if you're handy and have the tools get yourself a new strut and follow the wiki and do it yourself F**K IT you only live once

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jak480



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Be very carful but due to the fact that both frond airbags are down I would say it is unlikely that both front airbags are broken. I only go out from my personal experience here. So it is safe to put a jack under it and jack it up in any way I would advise not to go higher than the off road height because the system is in lock down. And it could burst the airbags if you still have air in the tank. If you look at the system the valve block is underneath the right front mid side ( I have a LHD)
If I remember correctly all 4 corners are connected to this valve blok covered by a piece of plastic.
I disconnected the lines and used a compressor to inflate them at a drivebel height on the right hand side I needed at least 9 bar to get it a little up.

The alternative is to place wooden bloks between the bumpstops and the very carefully limp to the garage.

Post #238184 30th Jan 2014 8:21am
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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Fully appreciate where your coming from with the blocks of wood on the bump stops... But, are you getting confused with the P38? Ladder chassis design, old fashioned live axles... Not so sure A, that would work on an L322 with independent suspension... & B, how the UK courts would look at it if you lost control and had an accident Rolling Eyes

Look into what it will cost to upgrade your breakdown cover... Or ask your garage of choice if they can arrange collection of said stricken vehicle...

Put this into perspective for a moment... Your potentially looking at a bill for several hundreds of pounds... What's £50-£100 to have the car recovered or to upgrade your breakdown cover in the whole scheme of things? Whistle

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jak480



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Craig
Of course you are right but out here in the middle of nowhere sometimes you need to think outside the box.

Post #238200 30th Jan 2014 10:20am
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TugRR



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^^ Common sense and the only solution to move the car from Craig -

Blocks of wood in the suspension whilst being driven on the road ? Utter nonsense - and, believe me, a very straightforward "Dangerous Driving" case should something go wrong . . . .

Thumbs Up Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

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Mph28mph



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

Well I have dropped the car off at the garage for them to find the fault.
Turns out I have a land rover independant specialist less than a mile from my house.
Holgate Land Rover.
I will report back when I get it repaired.
Fingers crossed its a simple one

Post #238583 31st Jan 2014 7:40pm
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