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Towbar Electrics

Managed to get a genune Westfalia towbar from the bay of E, complete with electrics. Unfortunately, the electrics are 12N only (black trailer socket), so I am going to need to get a new loom for the 13 pin connections on the caravan. My question is, is the electronics module the same for all 3 available electric set ups (Land rover list 3, 12N only (trailer connector), 12n + 12S (older caravans with the 2 plugs), and 13 pin for the more modern caravans). The electronics module I have is marked as follows:-

AHM II 12V
BMW 61.35-6 955 253
SIEMENS VDO
5WK10250B
HW02 SW01

A140503

If the same module is used for the 13 pin wiring loom, I can just buy the new loom, and use the existing module with it, selling the 7 pin loom on the bay of E. If the module is different, then I will need to get a new loom and module, and sell the whole 7 pin set, loom and module, on the Bay of E.

Vehicle is a 56 reg 4.4 V8 Vogue.

Grateful for any advice Confused

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IIRC as long as its the correct module for your vehicle thats all that matters.

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Don't forget you'll need the extra relay and wiring for the caravan fridge/charging system.http://www.westfalia-automotive.de/fileadm...391101.pdf Ian

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module is the same for all of the wiring options. Thumbs Up

this is mine on a 13 pin setup.

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the lower numbers differ but the main bmw part no is the same Thumbs Up There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Thanks for the help guys Very Happy Thumbs Up 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

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Another question - forgive my ignorance but I am still learning about my FF. Embarassed

Apparently, I have the Jag AJV8 4.4L engine, with the six speed box. Will the BMW module still work, or will it be different? I am assuming that as towing electrics are not engine related, Land Rover would have just continued using the BMW module? Question 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

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If you have touch screen nav then you simply need the 05-09 module Thumbs Up

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I need to do the same on mine (2011 4.4). It currently has a single black socket but want to convert to 13pin.
Does anyone know if its a simple case of replacing with a new loom (will go OEM) and retain the existing module?
I have access to an IID Pro if it needs anything changing in the settings.
TIA
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On a 2011 you only need to order the loom sir... There is NO module on 09> Rob

The plug is against the rear panel at the rear of the spare wheel hole👍

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Cheers Craig Thumbs Up
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PF Jones sell the wiring looms

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This one looks right for me Thumbs Up
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/land-rover-range...clone.html
There is a cheaper PF Jones one.....any experiences anyone?
https://www.pfjones.co.uk/land-rover-range...506pf.html 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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Some have had a good experience with PF Jones. I, and lots of others, didn't.

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Cam-Tech-Craig wrote:
On a 2011 you only need to order the loom sir... There is NO module on 09> Rob

The plug is against the rear panel at the rear of the spare wheel hole👍


Genuine 13 pin on its way from Dan at Duckworths Thumbs Up

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