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RR2008HSE



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Canada 2008 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black
And now for something completel different

I posted below (under "Everything Errors") about getting many errors (transmission, suspension, HDC, etcetera).

The usual cause is a poor battery, a poor alternator, or both, or the connections between them. I had both changed less than a month ago. Whistle Big Cry

So, into the mechanic AGAIN. Both were checked and working well. An error code lead them to the motor that activates the rear locking differential. It's not part of the differential itself, it just puts the diff lock on and off. It seems this is a known problem and can frequently affect FFRRs, SSRRs, and D3/4s with the rear locking diff causing the above symptoms.

Book time isn't bad, at 0.8 hours, but the repair kit (only available from JLR Whistle ) and is a rather pricey $650 ($1=£0.55, it's too late to do the math). Big Cry

So, if you're getting the error and have already checked the usual suspects, here's another one to try.

Post #284949 8th Oct 2014 6:03am
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Can I ask which spec, model and year this is please? I'm guessing from your name it's a 2008?

Thanks Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

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KurtVerbose



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Switzerland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Just a guess, but 2008 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black. That's the NA Jag petrol engine with the 6sp zf box.

Post #285908 11th Oct 2014 10:10pm
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Thanks for the speedy guess. I'm asking as I want to confirm this is unlikely to be a TDV8's problem as it has similar symptoms? Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #285910 11th Oct 2014 10:12pm
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Contraband



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Scotland 

^ you do know that if you hover the mouse or click on the picture of the car under your name that it tells you the spec etc of the cars? Previously..
Vogue SE TD6
Defender 90 2.4
Defender 110 TD5
Vogue 3.5 EFI

Post #285914 11th Oct 2014 10:15pm
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KurtVerbose



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Switzerland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Dijit wrote:
I want to confirm this is unlikely to be a TDV8's problem as it has similar symptoms?


I think they all have the same diff, but I might be wrong.

Post #285915 11th Oct 2014 10:23pm
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Thanks Contraband I didn't know that. However on mine it shows only my current TDV8 and not my 4.2 S/C. Can you have more than one? Nothing shows under yours??? Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #285916 11th Oct 2014 10:28pm
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

KurtVerbose I was told the TDV8 didn't have this. I'm at my wits end with it so would be delighted it it was correct. Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #285917 11th Oct 2014 10:30pm
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RR2008HSE



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Canada 2008 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

Yes, the guesses are right. I have a USA spec 2008 FFRR. The exact spec is an HSE LUX. It has the 4.4 nonSC Jaguar V8 and 6 speed transmission. The model specs are different over here, so I don't know the exact UK spec equivalent. AKAIK the car has absolutely everything a Supercharged would have (locking diff, cooled seats, leather, GPS, very nice audio) but no rear seat entertainment system.

My mechanic, who knows his stuff, mentioned the same part is used on other Land Rovers, so it makes sense that it could be on a diesel. However, we don't get diesels here, so he wouldn't have seen them. The only time diesels show up is after our 15 year import rule. That means a bit of a time warp. A proud owner recently showed off his Defender with the NEW TD5 ENGINE. Mr. Green I also recently saw a "new" diesel Range Rover (P38 2.5 DSE ex Germany with a MANUAL Shocked transmission).

Post #285938 12th Oct 2014 7:21am
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Thanks for the confirmation. Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #285949 12th Oct 2014 8:29am
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black
TDV8 2007 Diff lock test

Ok mine appears to have the diff lock. Any suggestions how to test this other than replace it?
It doesn't seem to show up as a fault on the iid.

Thanks Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

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paulmoran2



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England 2013 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Mariana Black

In case you are researching the matter, the rear diff lock is called the Electronic Torque Managed (ETM) Locking Differential.

I had a replacement motor fitted on my 2008MY TDV8 about 2 years ago as the motor had a fault.

The info is in the workshop manual (see extracts)


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Cam-Tech-Craig



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England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

If you look on your 4x4 info screen whilst turning your terrain response knob, you will see the icon over the rear diff change from a closed green padlock to an open one... That way you will know if your FF came with an EMT Thumbs Up

Post #286254 13th Oct 2014 2:35pm
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Thanks Paul. The question is how to test it? I don't think IID can interrogate it. Can it be checked with a meter? Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #286484 14th Oct 2014 11:11pm
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Dijit



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Scotland 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Java Black

Cam-Tech-Craig there are two open padlocks on the 4X4 screen, one on the rear diff and the other on the transfer box. I thought they only locked automatically when required. Am I wrong?

Thanks Rehab is for quitters!!!

RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Java Black
RR 2007 3.6 TDV8 Zermatt silver
RR 2000 P38 4.6 Met red
Mercedes 300TE 4-Matic
Nissan 300Z
Citroen XM 2.5TD X 6
Bentley Continental R
Hydrocon Highlander
Hydrocon Hamilton
Hydrocon Huntly
The restoration of the last three will account for my time during retirement!

Departed
LR 1992 110 2.5TD
RR 2000 Holland & Holland 4.6 LPG
RR 4.2 Supercharged with LPG, Vogue SE 2007 Buckingham Blue
RR 2002 4.4 V8 Zambesi Silver

Post #286485 14th Oct 2014 11:13pm
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