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TDV6 may just have the edge

Got a TDV6 VSE as a loner whilst mine is in.

The lack of adaptive dynamics is really noticeable but apart from that it is so much smoother, quieter and generally more refined than the SDV8.

Any idea why they didn't fit AD to the TDV6?

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Based on my experience in loaners I agree, the V6 diesel is the more refined drive compared to the V8. The V8 is just noisy and the marginal additional performance is arguably not worth it. If the V6 had the active ride there is very little to recommend in the V8 diesel.

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Suspect it was considered that the lesser weight over the front axle meant the desired ride/handling could be achieved without it - also quite a heavy system so the headline weight loss would be less without.

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Re performance - the SDV8 is considerably stronger, you can't fake the torque delivery.

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Ive said it before, the 3.0 is far more refined than the TDV8 and i think, if they put the full package on the 3.0 they would not sell (and coin in the premium) on the TDV8 models... Whistle Rolling Eyes

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Land Rover clearly think that there's enough difference between the SDV6 and the SDV8 to offer both in the Sport -I'd say the numbers don't tell the full story, the V8 diesel feels more muscular and doesn't need working as hard.

ARC gear weighs 90-100kg.

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The v6 is 'adequate' if all you do is potter about.....but the same could be said for the old td6 which the majority of peeps bought too.

The v8 diesel is just so much better, more grunt, not much worse on juice, better handling and gives the all important feel good factor.....it might be a bit noisy when worked but thats part of the charm. Reminds me of an old 4.6 P38 in that respect.

If jlr were to drop the v8 diesel I for one would be off to my local porsche centre pretty quickly even if it meant swappung to a turbo petrol v8. '14.5 SDV8 Nara Bronze for sale
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Well it won’t be long before the TDV8 does not meet legislation if the motoring magazines are to be believed!

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It's Euro6 compliant now with SCR and start/stop, so safe for a bit (at least 18MY I heard). VAG V8 diesel (Cayenne S Diesel etc.) isn't, and apparently isn't going to be.

Think the SDV8's failing versus the TDV6 is refinement, rather than noise.

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Aeroresh wrote:
The v6 is 'adequate' if all you do is potter about.....but the same could be said for the old td6 which the majority of peeps bought too.


The old TD6 was far from adequate! Loving my 405 V6 though. Never drops below 30 MPG, very smooth and certainly quick enough!

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Aeroresh wrote:
If jlr were to drop the v8 diesel I for one would be off to my local porsche centre pretty quickly even if it meant swappung to a turbo petrol v8.


Now I cannot understand how you would consider buying a petrol powered SUV with a Porsche badge over a 5.0 Supercharged Range Rover.

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^^^ +2, that statement makes no sense at all.

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Haha, sorry to confuse (i confuse myself quite regularly) let me try and clarify:-

Td6 wasnt adequate but most people thought they were which is why they sold so many of the things.

5.0 l405....tried one, nice but needed revs and constant kick downs to make decent progress which is somewhat uncouth in a RR in my opinion. Jlr need to go turbo for their petrols imo. Cayenne turbo however ticks more boxes, decent bottom and top end performance, handling and quality inteiror although the constant fill ups would no doubt grate pretty quickly which is why I defected to deisel power in the first place.

I did nearly buy the cayenne v8 diesel s before settling on the l405 but got wind of an impending facelift and dropping of the motor, so sdv8 was the ideal alternative.

Tdv6 is good and maybe the more modern and refined engine, but doesnt have it for me. '14.5 SDV8 Nara Bronze for sale
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Having driven both I would not say the RR is any more programmed to drop gears on acceleration than the Porsche is. Both like revs when pressing on. I am a big fan of the Cayenne Turbo I should add, but it is a very different offer to the FFRR. I would compare it with the Sport SVR.

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