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2012 Westminster Deployabe side step removal for jacking

Good evening all,

I recently bought a 2012 Westminster that has has developed a bad leak from the o/s front tyre.

The owners manual says to remove deployable side steps before jacking. I have removed the 4 Allen head screws, but can I shift the side step - no chance.

Am I missing something? Is there more than 4 screws or is the side step corroded to the brackets? If so any tips on re moving?

Many thanks,

Kevin

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i used to jack up on the inner bracket without any problems.. ... - .- -.




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As do I. The Land Rover specialist I brought from advised that’s the best jacking point, and is what they used when it went up on the ramp to sort a few bits for me.

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I thought the bracket was a jacking point on the 405 but not the 322??? I couldn't even remove the 4 allen screws on mine and instead just used to open the back door so the steps stayed deployed, then used the normal jacking position. I'm sure that's got some risk associated, but worked for me changing summer to winter wheels and back for about 8 years. Mike - MPx

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stan wrote:
i used to jack up on the inner bracket without any problems..


Hi Stan, do you place the jack under the side step bracket where it bolts to floor?

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If it’s just for a puncture then I’d open the door and use the normal jacking point as above.

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Or get in the car, turn the ignition on and within 5 secs press and hold the steps button in the overhead console for 5 seconds, the steps will deploy and stay there until you lock the car... Thumbs Up

Personally I wouldn't jack the car up on the step brackets but that's just me...!! Pete

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dhallworth wrote:
If it’s just for a puncture then I’d open the door and use the normal jacking point as above.

David.


Thank you for all of the comments, so from what you are saying it is possible to get a jack onto the jacking point with the steps deployed?

I will try in the morning. I have got to get this tyre replaced!

Kevin

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Yes, I've used both a trolley jack and a sprinter in the original jacking points with steps deployed. The sprinter is easier but both possible with a little fiddling to get the angle to pump the handle. Mike - MPx

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Just make sure you have them locked out, they tend to have a mind of their own sometimes and the step retracting with the jack there would not be a good idea... Thumbs Up Pete

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Thanks for all the advice. Job done.

I managed to get jack onto jacking point with the steps deployed.

I may well take these steps off, not sure I really need them at 6’3” and I like the way my missus flashes a bit of leg stepping in😁

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Easier than taking out the Allen key bolts would be simply to unplug the electrical connector at the front of the step once deployed… That way you can be 100% sure the step won’t try to move whilst your jacking/working on it 👍

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Re: 2012 Westminster Deployabe side step removal for jacking

[/quote]Is there more than 4 screws or is the side step corroded to the brackets? If so any tips on re moving?

Many thanks,

Kevin[/quote]

Hi Kevin, I understand it’s after the event; the steps are secured with 4 Allen screws each side. They corrode on to the brackets and can be pigs to remove.

For future I suggest;
1.) mark the position of the steps before you remove them with a “ sharpie” pen on the underside as they can be tricky to realign.
2.) remove from the front toward the back; I used a rubber mallet to shift mine the first time.
3.) Use copper slip on the brackets and threads to help removal in the future


The threaded fixing blocks on mine were badly corroded into the step due to dissimilar metals; I think they should move freely in the aluminium step body to make realignment easier when reassembling but mine were so baldly corroded that I couldn’t shift them; hence the alignment marks.

All in all they are a pig to remove if they’ve been on for a while. Once off they are easy to do by hand subsequently but are fussy to realign.

Bottom line is that I’d hate to be removing them in a lay-by on a dark rainy cold night to deal with a puncture! ( or worse still in an all lanes running motorway refuge ) TDV8 4.4 2012

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Hi,

Best to use grease and not copper slip on aluminium as you are introducing another metal, same as greasing pads on aluminium brake callipers, there is special alloy grease but most general grease will work fine... Thumbs Up Pete

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Re: 2012 Westminster Deployabe side step removal for jacking

Ramblin Man wrote:
Is there more than 4 screws or is the side step corroded to the brackets? If so any tips on re moving?

Many thanks,

Kevin[/quote]

Hi Kevin, I understand it’s after the event; the steps are secured with 4 Allen screws each side. They corrode on to the brackets and can be pigs to remove.

For future I suggest;
1.) mark the position of the steps before you remove them with a “ sharpie” pen on the underside as they can be tricky to realign.
2.) remove from the front toward the back; I used a rubber mallet to shift mine the first time.
3.) Use copper slip on the brackets and threads to help removal in the future


The threaded fixing blocks on mine were badly corroded into the step due to dissimilar metals; I think they should move freely in the aluminium step body to make realignment easier when reassembling but mine were so baldly corroded that I couldn’t shift them; hence the alignment marks.

All in all they are a pig to remove if they’ve been on for a while. Once off they are easy to do by hand subsequently but are fussy to realign.

Bottom line is that I’d hate to be removing them in a lay-by on a dark rainy cold night to deal with a puncture! ( or worse still in an all lanes running motorway refuge )[/quote]

I had a sneaky suspicion it was corrosion holding the step to the bracket. I will dig out my hide hammer later and give it wack!

Many thanks again for all of the most helpful replies, I would have struggled with is if not for your help👍👍

Regards,

Kevin

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