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Dixy

Member Since: 09 Apr 2009
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1071

The car has an 18 liter tank and had 2 liters in it, the computer said it would do 600+ miles but it shut down. I have no issue with having to fill up or paying. I have an issue with not being given good information to make decisions on. I went to the stealer the first working day after the message that it was running low, they sold me a top up bottle, 10 days latter it shuts down. letters not necessarily in the right order

14th Oct 2016 7:41am

caymanblack

Member Since: 08 Dec 2015
Location: DEVON
Posts: 1054

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I have been reading about comments made on the Porsche Forum PHs about the adblue on the Cayenne Diesels where they are complaining the cars with it are not as fast as they where with out it, also they have lost a lot of the V8 rumble sound.
Has this affected the SDV8 in anyway?
Dixy LR claim there should be four warnings before car won't start did this happen?

14th Oct 2016 9:51am

wealy

Member Since: 29 Jul 2013
Location: Kings Bromley
Posts: 1020

I can't see any technical reason that it would affect performance?????? Apart from the fact it adds more weight to the car!

It is a fluid (sheep's p***s) that is injected into the exhaust system way after the combustion process, so anyone who thinks its a slower car is in denial!

14th Oct 2016 10:48am

mzplcg

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Warwickshire. England. The Commonwealth.
Posts: 4029

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Given you can buy the stuff for less than a quid a litre I really don't see why you would let it run so low. You wouldn't do it with brake fluid, engine coolant, diesel or engine oil, so why do it with DEF?

Good information? So you trust the TPMS, the range to empty, etc?

In the time it took you to type all this you could have filled the thing a dozen times over.

14th Oct 2016 12:01pm

peekay

Member Since: 07 Nov 2011
Location: London
Posts: 89

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Just so I know, can any type/brand of Adblue be used i.e. Mixed in the tank if you need to refill?

14th Oct 2016 1:27pm

wealy

Member Since: 29 Jul 2013
Location: Kings Bromley
Posts: 1020

Whilst your car is in warranty I would only use genuine LR or an approved equivalent. We all know how they like to crawl out of warranty claims.

I had it with a BMW 1 series that had a problem with the rear wash blocking up and it was a common fault (something to do with the position of the reservoir causing crystallisation of the fluid) and BMW's first response was "have you put non BMW approved washer fluid in?"

14th Oct 2016 1:39pm

Dixy

Member Since: 09 Apr 2009
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1071

mzplcg wrote:
Given you can buy the stuff for less than a quid a litre I really don't see why you would let it run so low. You wouldn't do it with brake fluid, engine coolant, diesel or engine oil, so why do it with DEF?

Good information? So you trust the TPMS, the range to empty, etc?

In the time it took you to type all this you could have filled the thing a dozen times over.

My criticism is that I feel let down by the stealer, This, like most owners, is the first time with this new technology. The only way to check the level is by the computer, so if it says 1400 miles to empty and you have a service booked for 300 miles and you have put in a top up, that should be good enough.
I do weekly powdery checks, but again the only way of checking the oil level is by the computer, I miss the dipstick. Yes I trust the tpms, fuel gage, Speedo, it seams reasonable on a car of this value.

If when I took delivery the salesman had said every 5000 miles add 10 liters of add blue, I would have, but he said check the computer, which I did.
I am informed that having allowed air in to a top up bottle it can not be stored, as it will then degrade. How long will it be before you can go in to a filling station, top up with diesel and add blue and just pay for what you use.

Yes I could have used my time differently, hopefully this post may stop some other poor sod from having it shut down on them. In the time it takes you to read this you could have learnt to assist your fellow mankind. letters not necessarily in the right order

14th Oct 2016 1:46pm

mzplcg

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Warwickshire. England. The Commonwealth.
Posts: 4029

I did assist fellow mankind. The advice was simple. Keep it topped up. You can do this at most decent forecourts from a nozzle, you don't even have to buy a can. Certainly most of the truck pumps have adblue at them.

So you trust TMPS, but worse still it seems you trust what a salesman told you.

Oh and it can be stored as long as the container is closed again. It's 2/3rds water and 1/3rd urea so it's hardly going to degrade. In fact the 78% nitrogen in the small amount of air you let into the bottle will help preserve it. If fresh air would degrade it the thing would have a closed filling system, not a cap you unscrew which will let air in.

14th Oct 2016 2:57pm

Bluestu33

Member Since: 31 Dec 2014
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 69

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It maybe a silly question, but I will ask anyway.

I picked up my 2014 4.4 yesterday and forgot to ask the dealer. Do I need to add this to my car?

Thanks in advance

14th Oct 2016 9:16pm

CS

Member Since: 14 Apr 2015
Location: Edinburgh
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This will be an issue only for Euro 6 era cars, I think this came in Sept 2015, so not relevant to 2014 cars.

It all sound a bit of a hassle and I think for 2017 MY the fuel tank is reduced to 85 litres to allow room for the Adblue tank, reducing the range between fills which is of course one of the attractions of the diesel. Only Range Rovers since 1988

15th Oct 2016 4:07pm

JasM

Member Since: 08 May 2015
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 220

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Bluestu33 wrote:
It maybe a silly question, but I will ask anyway.

I picked up my 2014 4.4 yesterday and forgot to ask the dealer. Do I need to add this to my car?

Thanks in advance

2014 SDV8 won't have adblue.

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19th Oct 2016 12:35am

Gruute

Member Since: 05 Jul 2012
Location: Flanders
Posts: 136

caymanblack wrote:
I have been reading about comments made on the Porsche Forum PHs about the adblue on the Cayenne Diesels where they are complaining the cars with it are not as fast as they where with out it, also they have lost a lot of the V8 rumble sound.
Has this affected the SDV8 in anyway?
Dixy LR claim there should be four warnings before car won't start did this happen?

I had a Cayenne 3.0 diesel with Ad blue. and i can assure that they don't drive slower as the one's without. Also the the sound isn't different.
It's just annoying when you planned a trip of +1.000 km when the sign comes on just after you left home. Therefor i refilled it every 5.000 KM.

For my future RR 4.4 I will install an installation at home with 200L tank AdBlue to do the refills. 2017 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 silicon silver
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28th Feb 2017 5:49pm

caymanblack

Member Since: 08 Dec 2015
Location: DEVON
Posts: 1054

What i read about was the v8 diesel not the 3.0 litre.
Still as i said it owners over on the Porsche forum moaning not me personally as i have no idea.

28th Feb 2017 7:30pm

w8pmc

Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: West Lancashire
Posts: 229

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Not sure if this is cheaper than Stealer prices, but found a company online 'lrparts' who have the OEM Adblue in 2 litre easy use bottles for £7.50 +vat

These are the same you'd get from the Stealer & have the correct dispenser for the L405 Range Rover. Bought myself 5 bottles to keep in the garage. Paul

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11th Mar 2017 1:14pm

peekay

Member Since: 07 Nov 2011
Location: London
Posts: 89

Just a quick question on this - my warning light for this has come on - only driven 6k miles from new and it needs refilling !! Don't have time to go to dealer so can I use any variant of adblue. I checked manual and it says that it needs to be ISO 22241-1 I can only find ISO 22241 . Anyone know what the -1 means . Is it a different fluid? Can it be used ?
Thanks in advance

28th Mar 2017 6:21pm

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