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cheezels



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Turbo actuator access

Just wondering (hoping) someone may be able to help me out.

I left our 2007 TDV8 for 2 weeks without starting it whilst overseas.

On starting up, within a minute, "engine system fault" alarm appears. To cut a long story short I'm fairly confident it is the passenger side turbo actuator causing the alarm. From what I can tell/feel it is seized. The driver side is free to move.

Now for the question. How do you access it properly to free up?! I've had the wheel off and wheel arch trim off and can just about feel the shaft of the actuator but can't for the life of me find access to free up the linkage. Major ass pain!

I have read others have freed it up but can't seem to find info on access.

Any help very much appreciated as this one has me stumped.

Some other threads have suggested they have freed up by a good ragging of the engine. I'm reluctant to do this, but interested in any suggestions.

Cheers 2007 3.6 TDV8

Post #425366 29th Jan 2017 10:26am
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Bantam



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Hi There, I have no first hand experience of this, however, mine is booked in next week to do just this job. Also a 2007 TDV8

Its with an independent (whom I trust). He said that on one side (drivers I think) the actuator was reasonably easy to access & about a £350 job, however on the other side it was a big job - he would need the car for about 3 days, and it involves removing various bits of the car including the front subframe ?? Cost approx £1200 - ouch

Interestingly, I have no warning lights & car runs smoothly, just has decreased consumption by 4-5 MPG & bellows out un-burnt fuel on acceleration

On the passenger side, apparently one of the drain pipes from the windscreen drops directly onto the turbo actuator, causing it to seize prematurely.

If anybody has any input to this, then it would be really useful.

Post #425458 29th Jan 2017 7:30pm
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cheezels



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Thanks for that. Kinda makes sense.

The driver side is fairly accessible from the garage floor. At least to check it operates ok. Passenger side looks impossible!

I have it booked in for a diagnosis on Friday so will post back any findings. 2007 3.6 TDV8

Post #425554 30th Jan 2017 9:02am
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Bantam



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Just did a bit of searching & here's what I found :

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic35415.html?highlight=turbo

I'm going to have a look at mine see what I can see

Post #425560 30th Jan 2017 9:26am
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cheezels



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Dang!

That was an awesome find!

I almost lost my will to live last night trying to get at it through the wheel arch.

I really didn't think that access could be gained that way, so will have another go tomorrow.

Thanks for that 2007 3.6 TDV8

Post #425565 30th Jan 2017 9:45am
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Andy_J



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Having done this job myself, I can confirm it is possible to free the actuator arm , but it is not easy. Be prepared for lots of frustration trying to hook the arm. 56 TDV8 Vogue SE
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Post #425694 30th Jan 2017 10:06pm
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cheezels



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Ok Andy, many thanks.

Will have another go tonight

You don't happen to have any pictures? 2007 3.6 TDV8

Post #425700 30th Jan 2017 10:43pm
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cheezels



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Finally some success.

I'm not sure how the hook trick works but I did manage to free it up by levering it in a fashion.

Extremely difficult to locate, but once found I did drench it in light spray oil and prodded it a few times with heavy gauge wire.

All good now!

For anyone attempting this there is no point in removing the wheel and wheel arch guard. Also access can be gained without removing engine sump guard. Just very tricky locating the actuator arm and then the ball joint through a gap about the size of penny.

Also, ignition on causes the actuators to sweep a couple of times. The same happens at ignition off. 2007 3.6 TDV8

Post #425745 31st Jan 2017 10:20am
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barose



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I have the restricted performance warning come up too. There is no discernible reduction in performance at all. I took it to an independent specialist who scanned the vehicle. I watched while he checked most items. From the screen I could see the actuators were moving in unison as he revved the engine. The EGR valves were working well too. There seems to be nothing wrong except the red triangle and the message on starting. He also cleared the code but it reset at higher revs. I am to take it in for further examination but can anyone see what could be amiss here.

Post #425843 1st Feb 2017 10:42am
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Bantam



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Well spent a couple of hours under the car today - yes, the actuator is hard to find on passenger side !

By looking at the driver side and it position in relation to the sub-frame, you can work out how to find it on passenger side.

I opened the gap between the two sheilds slightly with a screwdriver - Unfortunately for me, there are two pipes wrapped in Foil insulation right where the actuator is, so extremely difficult to locate - you can get your arm through from nearside of car, which I did and got my fingers into area where actuator should be, but felt nothing that had any movement at all. So ended up spaying with WD40 & will have to take it in next week

Good news is that driver side is very easy to get to and well worth a spray with oil/grease now and again.

Hope that helps someone

Post #425892 1st Feb 2017 5:18pm
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barose



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Took the L322 to an Indy in Peterborough (Bishops 4x4). They figured out it was a stuck secondary actuator. They freed it up and charged me for a very reasonable one hours labour. They advised me to from time to time to get the revs above 3000 as that is when the secondary actuator cuts in. Apparently my sedentary style of driving could cause this actuator to seize over time.

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A few pics or video showing positions would be good 👍 _____________________________________________________
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Bantam



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I looked at getting a few pics when I was looking at mine, but without a ramp, I would suggest its practically impossible to get a decent photo.

If you get a picture of the underside of engine area, I will gladly add a couple of markers to point out where they are - the secret is to look at the one on the driver side which is easily seen. The passenger side is in exactly the same position relative to the subframe, but you cant see it easily.

Post #427402 12th Feb 2017 10:33am
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Just lubricated the drivers side one via wheel arch when changing pads. so took a pic of where to go:


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You can see the articulated arm accessed via moving the heat shield (knackered on mine and needing replaced).

Having done this and lost the energy to try to access the left hand one and still having the error message I gave up to get the most reliable car I own out for a breath of fresh air.


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PS The TDV8 probably for sale if anyone fancies a cheap one. 3.6, 76000 miles, deployable steps, lcd dash, towbar and electrics. Contact me if interested. Not looking for much as got the Disco for work now and a few others hanging round needing driven

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Does anyone know the full range of motion of the actuators in the test cycle at start up? And do both travel the same way ie I can easily see the drivers side one and the arm goes from horizontal to vertical and vice versa a few times at test. But theres talk of pulling the passenger side one downwards with a wire from horizontal. I can hook it but feel theres no way it will go down from horizontal but then you aren't exactly pulling downwards as you are accessing it from behind. I have the dreaded restricted performance message even though it feels the same!
On a side note my IID Tool only gives one value for the Boost actuator not one per bank. Maybe this is because it is not activated on this car as it was bought for an older TD6?
T

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