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Rapiscan



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Hill descent control

Hi, can someone explain HOW this works, does it utilise brakes or something else?
When I switch mine on it holds the car on an incline allowing slow travel.. BUT it makes groaning noises like something binding??
Do they all do this or have I a problem? Thanks. Thumbs Up 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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rjff



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I think the noise you have is the system using the brakes etc. to control the car's rate of progress. It appears to pulse the brakes quickly (or not quickly), seeming like it's not at all well.

I've tried mine on a snowy/icy road decent and that's what it sounded like. Left it do it's own thing and the wife was rather apprehensive. Me, of course not Smile. No doubt someone will be along shortly to put us right. Cheers
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Sound is normal. Brakes doing their job Thumbs Up 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
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Rapiscan



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Mmm? I wasn't sure if it was using brakes or a kind of telmar system as used on some buses/trucks where electromagnets are energised on the propshafts to create a "drag" to reduce speed.. OK as long as the sound we hear is the norm then, fine, thanks. 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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rjff



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We've got enough electrickery on ours without the prop brake system. Hope no one from JLR reads this or we will have more things they can engineer to go Censored up Rolling Eyes Cheers
Richard

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Witzend



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Mine used to make an awful grinding sound when HDC was selected just as you describe, However, the target descent speed can be adjusted using the cruise control + or - buttons on the steering wheel. I adjusted mine relative to the gradient while HDC was in operation and was able to greatly reduce the grinding and banging noises.
Hope this helps.

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Rapiscan



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Well ya learn something new everyday! I'll give it a go, ta! Thumbs Up 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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appj62



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Use mine when descending out of a multi-story car park in Warrington. Reassured with all the creaking and juddering, as know that the system is working correctly! Previous cars:
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I have to say that mine is silent in operation! I'm sure its working though. 2010 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE

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Rapiscan



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If its merely using the brakes, how is that better than me using the brake pedal? Rolling Eyes 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

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rjff



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It will be calculating the variation between each wheel speed against perhaps the measured acceleration of the car and applying differing retardation to each wheel via the brakes. (I think) It will be likely more complicated than that but you get the idea. Cheers
Richard

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mjdronfield



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You can’t brake each individual wheel at varying levels to keep the car straight, using information from the sensors around the body.

I might be making an assumption there of course, you could have become fully assimilated..... Borg style.

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Boxbrownie



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HDC is really for decent of slippery/difficult terrain decent where just using the brake pedal would result in a side slip, the HDC as above has been said uses each wheel retardation individually to balance the braking effort keeping the vehicle in a controlled decent, basically it’s not really for your multi story car park Laughing David

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Rosco



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Rapiscan wrote:
If its merely using the brakes, how is that better than me using the brake pedal? Rolling Eyes


get yourself on a 1:4 snow/mud covered hill and you will see the benefits, bloody noisy but does a great job Thumbs Up

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rjff



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MJ

Me assimilated, I'm more likely to be exterminted by those pesky beasts with toilet plunger arms Confused . And anyway, the steering is always done by the most dangerous nut on the car, the one holding the steering wheel Sniggering

Rapiscan,

This is probably the only time we're happy the the FF making an unusual noise. As Rosco says, get to a hill, with lots of no grip and go Thumbs Up Cheers
Richard

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