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aids22



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My new L322 & comparison with P38

Hi All
I always like looking at pictures and tales of other people’s cars, so here is my first contribution on FFRR.

After running a 2002 P38 Vogue SE for 9 years I have taken the plunge and got, guess what another Vogue SE this time a 2011 TDV8, would have liked another petrol on LPG but the direct injection on the 5.0 supercharged put me off. Never had a diesel car before, should be fun learning how to repair and maintain it.

I have only had it a few weeks so I also thought it might be good to share my initial feelings comparing it to the P38.
I got my P38 in 2010 with only 26k miles, it’s now done 120k. This time I could not justify the cost of a low millage RR so I have taken a gamble, the new one has done 122k, will probably be using the forum quite a bit!

It looks like it has been well looked after and a full service history, two owners both for four years each. If I had to guess on a mileage without knowing I would say around 40k. I am also curious as to which is most important mileage or condition, time will tell.

I could not resist the colour combination here are some pictures.











First impressions compared with the P38.
Note:- I have modified my P38 quite a bit it is fitted with a larger torque converter, extra sound deadening, reduced to 16” wheels and LPG.
1. Feels much bigger than the P38.
2. Much smoother and refined ride around town.
3. Motorway ride and noise better but not a massive difference.
4. The extra toys are great especially the adaptive cruse and air con seats.
5. The TDV8 is very fast but the power comes in suddenly, the P38 power delivery and gearbox are smoother.
6. Economy is much better that expected on the motorway 35mpg is easily achieved, if I slip stream a lorry at 55mph then it is well over 40mpg. The trip computer reads 10% high which is probably standard for most cars. The P38 is about the same cost to run on LPG, but I think the L322 will beat it if I really go for economy driving. A big advantage is that I do not have to hunt for a LPG station at a good price.
7. The 20” wheels look fantastic but not very practical. The 16” on the P38 ride up obstacles easily and the alloys are protected by the bigger tyres.
8. I am an accomplished home mechanic the P38 is easy to repair and maintain but the TDV8 4.4 engine looks quite difficult a lot of parts are had to see never mind replace. Although the reliability record appears to be better so maybe not a problem.

So it’s not all win for the L322 but overall I am well impressed and in general it drives like a new car. It is the ride quality that impresses the most it is excellent especially considering the massive wheels.

The dealer was not keen to take my P38 in part ex so I still have it and not sure I want sell it yet. I now have 5 cars so something may have to go eventually.

Buying Tip:- If you are keen to buy one get a fault code reader and read the fault codes. You can always sell it again if you decide against a RR. I have just got an IIDTool and wished I had done it before I parted with money. Not too bad but could have got things fixed for free or a discount. Did not find fault on two test drives and for the first week of ownership but with the code reader and more use there are a few minor things. I will report back when I have investigated further.

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Looks cracking. I know folk are now covering the wood trim to make it look like piano black, as it’s apparently more modern..... but I prefer proper wood. I like the look of yours.

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Welcome and wow Thumbs Up , it looks a stunner.
NMJ has got a similar 4.4 tdV8 in Rimini red.
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Re: My new L322 & comparison with P38

[quote="aids22"
6. Economy is much better that expected on the motorway 35mpg is easily achieved, if I slip stream a lorry at 55mph then it is well over 40mpg.[/quote]

Nice looking RR but if you want to keep it that way I would not slipstream HGV's to same a few pennies - if you've not driven a modern HGV you will not appreciate how quickly they can stop & being that close to one you will get less warning of having to brake.
Worse case scenario you will end up as a sandwich filling between 88 tons worth. 2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6

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I miss my Red one and as for tailgating HGVs, leave it to them, some of the ones I've seen on the M6 seem to think 5 feet is enough of a gap. Shocked Shocked Geoff

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supershuttle wrote:
I miss my Red one and as for tailgating HGVs, leave it to them, some of the ones I've seen on the M6 seem to think 5 feet is enough of a gap. Shocked Shocked


As an HGV driver myself I am appalled at the some of the things I see other HGV drivers doing.

However, the space between two HGV's following one another is not the best place to be ;
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/drivers-miracle-...47325.html 2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6

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The best colour combo, with cherry wood, great looking car, get your bank manager ready Thumbs Up .
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Don't sell the p38 I have just put mine back on the road. As for condition or mileage condition all day long they love being used and if they are left to stand all sorts of niggles creep in - I bout my p38 in 2000 with 15k its done 170k although it was in the garden for 5 years my s/c has done 180k and is like new enjoy your vehicle it looks fab Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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Brian Considine wrote:
supershuttle wrote:
I miss my Red one and as for tailgating HGVs, leave it to them, some of the ones I've seen on the M6 seem to think 5 feet is enough of a gap. Shocked Shocked


As an HGV driver myself I am appalled at the some of the things I see other HGV drivers doing.

However, the space between two HGV's following one another is not the best place to be ;
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/drivers-miracle-...47325.html


Hi Brian, My dad used the drive an HGV for a living and he, like you, was always conscious of the gap (or lack of it) between vehicles. Any sort of tailgating is for the birds really, I like to relax when driving and getting too close to the vehicle in front (HGV or anything) is not conducive to relaxing. As for trucks that get to close to each other and maybe to me if I'm relaxing (dawdling) at 50-60mph in the nearside lane, there are good and bad in all walks of life although I do appreciate that an HGV slowing can result in many gearchanges being required to get back up to the maximum allowed speed (are they automatic nowadays?) so I try to not dawdle during the week as after all they can be hauling 38 ton with an engine only a little more powerful than mine. Geoff

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I have kept my p38 it comes out a couple of times a month the l322 is brilliant the p38 timeless

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Re: My new L322 & comparison with P38

Brian Considine wrote:
[quote="aids22"
6. Economy is much better that expected on the motorway 35mpg is easily achieved, if I slip stream a lorry at 55mph then it is well over 40mpg.


Nice looking RR but if you want to keep it that way I would not slipstream HGV's to same a few pennies - if you've not driven a modern HGV you will not appreciate how quickly they can stop & being that close to one you will get less warning of having to brake.
Worse case scenario you will end up as a sandwich filling between 88 tons worth.[/quote]


Your quite right Brian, I gave the wrong impression.

I should have said with the cruse set to maximum gap which is a good distance away.

I do think you still get a benefit from the hole in the air created by the HGV.

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Brian Considine wrote:

As an HGV driver myself I am appalled at the some of the things I see other HGV drivers doing.




i generally find hgv drivers are ok brian, and most are professional in their driving .. ... - .- -.




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