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MonteCarlo



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Of course after changing the oil in the box i had to check if the oil made a difference! Whistle





Still felt the same, and sounded the same! Rolling with laughter

But i'm confident it will protect the parts inside better! MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #552233 30th Apr 2020 10:04pm
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MonteCarlo



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This update was about the common P38 issue that is water ingress Shocked

water wicks its way down through the scuttle, it can be caused by the screws having no sealant on them.

it can also be due to the pollen filter housings warping and allowing water in..

Oh and the scuttle can fill with leave and cause it to overflow due to the leaves blocking the drains holes..

"surgery time" Wink



First off the wipers have to come off Mr. Green 13mm nut and a good tug "fnarr".. Bow down



And removed..



Next up the trim that sits under the windscreen, it just slides off.. Whistle





Some nice filth under there!!



Removing the plastic is easy as pie, just a load of pozi screws and some perseverance! Bow down
It goes together like a jigsaw and is very hard to muck up!!

All off.



And as i expected, full of filth!! Yawn




Once this was discovered the pollen filter covers were removed



The plates that the housing attaches too was also removed, this is sealed to the body with a closed cell foam tape, which invariably leaks..



You will not the rusty spindle on the blower motor and the abysmal condition of the screws for the covers!!



..

The drivers side was a tad more complicated becuase the wiper motor is secured by a huge nut "fnarr" and i didn't own a socket that large!



So some perseverance with an old grippers got me out of a pinch!!



The cover this side was sad..



More rust..



Anyway fastforward past some swearing i have this pile of crap to stick back on before the torrential downpour scheduled for the afternoon!



I sealed the plates back on with a black sealant, i also added some to the bolt threads.



The scuttle itself was also treated to a hoover out and a quick wax Laughing





much better than before!! Mr. Green

Reasemnyl is the complete reverse of the removal and sealant was added to every screw! Mr. Green



A handy feature of the P38 is the bonnet that goes 90 degrees to the screen, and allows easy re fitment of the scuttle plastics.



To track whether this stopped rainwater dripping onto the dash and then soacking the carpet i pulled the plastics off..



4 screws secure it to the dash..



The nice weather appeared and i noted no more water pouring in!!



Twisted Evil

Phew!! MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #552234 30th Apr 2020 10:23pm
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MonteCarlo



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Next up some mechanical fettling.. Laughing

The 4.6 has a throttle body heater, which does exactly that..

Only issue with it is, the plastic warps and the seal breaks this ultimately causes coolant to spill out over the rocker covers.. Rolling with laughter

Removing the heater involves removing the throttle body, which is a easy job..

First thing to do is to grab the throttle cables and open them to WOT..





This allows them to slide out the cables which is one of the few things required to get this off..

4 8mm bolts secure it to the manifold and 4 6.5mm bolts secure the heater to the body..





I re-sealed the original heater and painted the throttle body black to add some contrast against the sea of silver!



No more coolant pouring out!!

result!! Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #552236 30th Apr 2020 10:38pm
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MonteCarlo



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Engine cosmetics..

Laughing

The rocker covers on the RV8 are a cast aluminium affair, that after a few years like to corrode and exude a nice powder that makes them look like a right dogs dinner..

Evil or Very Mad




The engine orginally wasn't very nice to look at, the above was taken just after a manifold paint..



Not pretty..

With a few beers in me and some black paint i gave them a dusting over, which improved the look no end.. Whistle






The mighty V8 also got some red conduit and a coat of vinyl and rubber care!

Rolling with laughter Mr. Green MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #552237 30th Apr 2020 10:47pm
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dennij



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Buckingham Blue

Well I have never seen anyone use a Rolls Royce as a workbench Laughing

Post #552246 1st May 2020 8:20am
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MonteCarlo



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Update time!! "march 2020"

It was time to put her back on the road, after a few months of sitting...

Being me I threw her in to an MOT with no prep and she passed with flying colours Rolling with laughter

I did do some preparation the day before!

A new set of Bosch wipers were needed, these have spoilers on them to help force them onto the screen Whistle



New fitted old areos in me hand!




Next up was the fuel system, she had spent a long time sat so I thought a Redex would help got all the crap out, unfortunately being a bloke I added the entire bottle to 14ltrs of fuel!



Cleaned her out alright! Thumbs Up

On the way to the MOT I gave her a good workout..

The ramp with the old Duchess on!



She passed with flying colours, albeit with a few balljoint rubbers

Back home she sat while TAX and insurance was sorted out!



Once sorted out I took her out for a shakedown run, initial assessment showed the shockers weren't doing much and the EAS needed calibrating.

A trip to Dinemore woods..




More to come! MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564388 12th Aug 2020 10:09pm
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MonteCarlo



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A few weeks later this happened..



EAS FAULT and she plummeted to the bumpstops Laughing

The usual rout to fixing it is to check the compressor output, pulling the output line and running the compressor showed it had very little outflow pressure..

Pulling it out is rather easy, 4 - 8mm nuts



The cylinder head comes off, and the barrel and piston was inspected for wear, it turned out the bore was worn and piston ring ruined...... Bow down





The upper piston seal was perished too!



The usual course of action is to rebuild the compressor, however upon further inspection the bearings inside were letting go, which explained the noise i was hearing..

so....



A nice fresh 'un!



fitted.



After fiddling around with RSW UNLOCK SUIT and a cable we have a car that raises again!!



That was an easy fix...



Whistle MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564390 12th Aug 2020 10:22pm
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MonteCarlo



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Some small cosmetic upgrade rather than mechanical Laughing

before



After.




I was never much a fan of the Green/silver of the land rover badge against the blue and it is stealthier!

Tailgate too!





Nice..... MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564392 12th Aug 2020 10:31pm
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DrF



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Orkney Grey

I am impressed, well done Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

Post #564393 12th Aug 2020 10:34pm
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MonteCarlo



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Thank you very much Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564395 12th Aug 2020 10:43pm
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MonteCarlo



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"Partial suspension overhaul"

After doing the EAS work I noticed she felt rather "loose" the steering tended to wander and the ride was shocking "lol"

A call into Rimmer Bros got me a nice pile of parts..

New front and rear shocks
New Drag link
New Steering damper
New Poly bush anti roll bar D bushes
New drop links

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Front shockers first, the procedure is really simple

1 - 18mm nut on the shock tower and 1 - 15mm nut for the lower mount..

Top bolt



bottom nut



Old unit off.



new one on!




Rinse and repeat for the other side!! Bow down

The rear was a slightly different ballgame.

The rear shocks were really rather rough, and due to the fact the shock body was seized it made removing the nut a pain..



A pair of vice grips came to the rescue Shocked



The lower nut was then removed which just left the upper bolt, which is an 18mm Censored that needs a 3ft extension!



Removal is easy the socket has to be fed over the chassis

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The bolt came out, thankfully and my new units were slipped in.. Mr. Green


Shiny!





The old shocks were dead they compressed with no effort,



The ride is much smoother thanks to the new units, fitment was a pain in the arse, but worth it! Mr. Green

"D bushes and drop links next"

The old D bushes were worn excessively, the knock from the front suspension was a clue to their failure.




Centre hole worn to an oval! Yawn

new ones fitted Laughing



Drop links...

the usual Old/New, replacement is easy, 18mm nut..



New

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Steering damper and drag link next!

Wheels off..





Old drag link balljoint at the pitman arm just needed a whack with a BFH and it popped right off.



At the other end the nut wasn't playing ball Censored



So i had to get Mr grinder out to "bust a nut" Bow down



BAM!



New one fitted..



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Overall the upgrade certainly have changed how she drives, the ride is far better she feels planted to the road.

Whereas before it tended to wander all over the road, the handling is superb..

It can certainly keep up with it's more modern compatriots! Thumbs Up MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564402 12th Aug 2020 11:15pm
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MonteCarlo



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Next up some cosmetic rather than mechanical fettling Whistle

With the recent steering/handling improvement, the change of direction device AKA steering wheel was looking horrible.. Rolling with laughter



Easy dye to the rescue



After masking the wheel off, I gave the wheel a rub down with cleaner to remove any dirt, the surface was then roughened up with a very fine sandpaper to allow the dye to adhere...

The first coat went on quite well..



2nd.



3rd and final with a coat of sealant.

the wood was also re-varnished..

before it was very dull and the PO had damaged it



Mr. Green



Not bad eh! Thumbs Up

pretty pleased with it! Wink MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564404 12th Aug 2020 11:21pm
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MonteCarlo



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"The unending leak"

The P38 is known for its inability to hold water I've tried unsuccessfully in the past to fix it..

However this time when you open up the car and this greets you, it is time to take action.... Big Cry

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Issue being I couldn't trace the leak due to there being many ways for it to seep in..

Coloured water was the answer in my case I just mixed water with food colouring! Wink



Pouring the water around the Pollen filter covers yielded my success!

The water went from this..



To this.



I pulled the covers off and found this Rolling with laughter



The old covers tend to bend in the middle causing them to let water in..

Ideally they need to be cleaned properly.





Refitted with plenty of sealant on the covers and screws,



verdict is the water leak was cured!

Next issue was the foam under the carpet was sodden, and being rather dense meant it would never try out... Rolling with laughter

So in a brutish fashion I cut it out..



And ran it over Laughing





I left it in the sun for a week to completely dry out..

The stuffed it back in... Whistle

verdict is a completely dry P38

Twisted Evil MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

Post #564406 12th Aug 2020 11:38pm
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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

That looks cracking. I’ve always liked that colour.

Seem to be more rust free than the L322s are going to be at that age.

Bow down 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #564407 12th Aug 2020 11:46pm
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MonteCarlo



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Thank you very much Thumbs Up

After a pressure wash the chassis and floor pan are both completely rust free Mr. Green

Not bad for a Pembroke/Swansea car Bow down MY2001 Range Rover P38 Vogue 4.6
MY2005 Jaguar S type 3.0 SE
MY2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
MY1987 Bentley Turbo R "project"
MY1977 Rolls Royce Silver shadow. "project"

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