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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey
L322 as motorway cruiser?

As a potential L322 TDV8 4.4 owner (once the market has cooled off) 95% of my driving is and will be cruising on the M-way which my current Audi A6 Allroad with it's air suspension and Goodyear F1 asy5 tyres does supremely well with a smooth ride and a directional stability that requires very little driver input follow a straight line Like it's on rails). I'm expecting a smooth ride with the L322 but (with suitable tyres) are they directionally stable or do they require a lot of steering input to track in a straight line?

Post #604816 26th Aug 2021 7:39am
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4434Morrison



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

I use my 2012 4.4 TDV8 to travel regularly across European motorways on trips often exceeding 1,500 miles usually completed within 24 hours with speeds around 80 to 90 mph and up to 130 mph on German motorways.

The vehicle requires normal steering input and is a pleasure to drive at all speeds. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Current
2015 E220 with AMG Sport Pack - Currently driven by my son
2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue - Written off by my son

Post #604817 26th Aug 2021 7:45am
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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Thanks - what tyres are you running on?

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4434Morrison



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

I am running n 255/55R20 Pirelli Scorpion Verdes with 30mm spacers on the rear and 25mm spacers on the front.

These tyres and spacers fill the wheel arches nicely.

The suspension is set at normal height, I did use the IID BT tool to set the suspension lower at one point, but reverted back to normal heights as the ride is better. I flt no improvements at higher speeds with lower suspension heights. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Current
2015 E220 with AMG Sport Pack - Currently driven by my son
2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue - Written off by my son

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Thanks - I was thinking about 55 profile tyres for a smoother ride already. Do the spacers add anything to the handling or are they just cosmetic?

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Ffrr-lover



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

As with any car, if the bushes are worn and there’s play then there will be more chance of wander or corrections needed when driving. Same goes with tram-lining…
The same goes for having correctly aligning wheels.
As already mentioned the L322 is an excellent motorway cruiser. The 4.4 is effortlessly powerful, has the ride comfort, plus the ride height makes reading the road ahead far easier especially when traffic gets busier.
Active cruise control (ACC) makes a huge difference too… if you get on with it (some people just don’t like it).

I’m running on 285/35/22’s at the moment so do feel a little more that other “normal” tyres, but not enough to be a problem for me. That being said I’ll be swapping to 285/40/22’s when they need replacing.
My AB had 20’s (can’t recall its tyre wall size… would guess 50?) and its ride was faultless. Currently driving: 2012 L322 SE Overfinch 4.4 tdv8

Past rides:
2014 Audi Q7 3.0d (good riddance)
2010 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged
2011 L320 HSE 3.0 sdv6
2014 Jaguar XF-RS 5.0 supercharged
2007 BMW 535D
2005 Mini Cooper S

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4434Morrison



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Santorini Black

The difference in handling with spacers in my opinion not notable, but the spacers do improve the cosmetics as the wheel outer edges are in line with the outer edges of the front and rear wheel arches.

I have attached an image of the side view of the Range Rover showing how the tyres align to the outer edge of the wheel arches in normal road height.











The view of the tyres without spacers 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Current
2015 E220 with AMG Sport Pack - Currently driven by my son
2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue - Written off by my son

Post #604826 26th Aug 2021 8:57am
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JayGee



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Looks more 'planted' for sure - Thanks!

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Just a warning about using wheel spacers, the standard set up and wheel offset are designed to maximise the life of the wheel bearing, extending the track puts more leverage on the bearing, bearings are not designed to have this happen...

It can also play havoc with the Scrub Radius which is worked out by the chassis engineers with the stock set up, this can lead to understeer, cause wayward handling, reducing grip when cornering and generally messing up the front wheel geometry...

It moves the wheel further away from the shocker mount, this can make the suspension softer in corners and make the fatty roll more when coming into a bend and leaving a bend.

The chassis engineers spend an awful long time working out the best set up for the fatty.... IMHO you should leave it as standard...

If you do use them then don't forget to notify your insurance company... Thumbs Up Pete

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2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
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TDV8_Tommy



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Spain 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Baltic Blue

The double-glazed front windows also make for a very quiet ride.

I wouldn't want any other car for a cross-continent jaunt Thumbs Up 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster - Baltic Blue, Jet interior
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Sandyt



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I have done over 200k in mine lots of motorway and lots of hard driving I use 255 55 20 Michelin Pilot Sport for summer and 255 55 19 Goodyear Ultra grip for winter
couldn't recommend it more
Also replace all bushes and bearings as soon as I feel the wear Thumbs Up

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tezza



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I used to make regular 500 mile trips from the north east of Scotland to the Midlands and back in an RRS and it always made what was a tiring, dull journey effortless. I don't do those journeys anymore but having spent a bit of time in the last few weeks doing some motorway work in my recently purchased L322 I kind of wish I still did, it's a dream to float down the motorway in, spacious, superbly comfortable and a boatload of grunt when you need to plant the foot.

My only minor gripe is the audio system, not the sound quality but the lack of factory Bluetooth for audio streaming. I've got a bovee but it's not reliable, cuts out every 20 minutes or so, not sure if that's android related or if the bovee itself is duff, I feel it's the latter so plan on buying another soon to hopefully solve that problem. An android auto solution might be a better solution if I was spending large amounts of my life on the road but it seems like too much money and quite a job to install so for me, not really worth it.

Active cruise definitely helps but imo it takes a bit of getting used to if you want to get the most out of it.

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Huggybearfezzy



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Orkney Grey

I had the Bovee cutting out every 20 mins and I use an Android too. Mine seems to have sorted it out when I went into my Bluetooth setting for the Bovee device and switched off phone calls capability. I think the Land Rover phone and Bovee compete with each other and it drops the Bovee momentarily. By doing switching off the phone call setting in the Bovee my LR phone Bluetooth seems to work perfectly.

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Huggybearfezzy



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I had the Bovee cutting out every 20 mins and I use an Android too. Mine seems to have sorted it out when I went into my Bluetooth setting for the Bovee device and switched off phone calls capability. I think the Land Rover phone and Bovee compete with each other and it drops the Bovee momentarily. By doing switching off the phone call setting in the Bovee my LR phone Bluetooth seems to work perfectly.

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JayGee



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I have a Bovee in my Audi with Android and it works flawlessly and there is no conflict with the car's own bluetooth phone system so this would need fixing but it's not a show stopper.

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