Odd one - go to start but it clunks (starter engages but won’t turn over). No error messages on the dash aside from the low range light flashing. Tried a new battery to no avail. I’ll copy/paste the codes later to see if that helps.

I’d did this once last week but then started and drove twice since. Any thoughts chaps? Tried resetting the error message but no joy.



Any help appreciated 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

Sounds like the starter motor… seems to be something of a known issue.

Mine does it sometimes. Another press of the start button and all is good.

There are a few threads on it.

Contacts tend to get carboned up inside the starter.

Some have stripped them down and cleaned them up… some have just fitted a new starter.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Hope not as it’s just had a brand new LR one! Second one in 14 months. Going down to read the codes shortly.. 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

Ah, probably not that either then….

I read sometimes the joins in the cabling can be an issue, but I’m not an expert.

Just from reading on the forum.

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Could be cable joins.
You could try and extra earth from battery to chassis as a test but not sure if that's OK on these motors. 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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It just started. Odd. Here are the error codes

BCM-Body Control

B100D-87 (2 Column lock authorisation - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 02-10-2021 20:22:31 at 250993 km )
B100D-67 (2 Column lock authorisation - Algorithm based failure - signal is incorrect after the event
( on 02-10-2021 20:22:11 at 250993 km )
B11DB-87 (2F) Battery monitoring module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 03-10-2021 20:22:05 at 0 km )
DABM-Digital Audio

U3000-04 (2F) Control module - General failure information - system internal failure
( on 03-10-2021 20:22:21 at 250993 km )
GSM-Gear Shift

U0422-81 (2E) Invalid data received from the body control module - Bus signal/message failure - invalid serial data received
( on 03-10-2021 20:24:03 at 250993 km )

PCM-Engine TDV8 4.4L

U0416-68 (2A) Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 03-10-2021 20:24:03 at 250994 km )
B11DB-87 (2F) Battery monitoring module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 03-10-2021 20:22:26 at 250994 km )
P065B-16 (2F) Generator control - circuit range/performance - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold
( on 03-10-2021 20:22:26 at 250994 km )
U0415-68 (2A) Invalid data received from ABS control module - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 03-10-2021 20:24:03 at 250994 km )

TCM-Transmission 6spd

U101B-87 (2E) Lost communication with GSM - multiple bus - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
P279D-64 (2F) Four wheel drive range signal circuit - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure
( on 03-10-2021 20:22:04 at 250993 km ) 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

Is this an important plug? Doesn’t look like it’s been used in a whil:

I would suspect a bad connection.

I had the same after disconnecting the battery to change the alternator.

The battery terminals appeared to be tight but as a last resort before buying a new battery I re-tightened them tighter than I would normally think necessary and have had no problem since. It did not make sense to me as they were already tight but it worked.

The fault codes are probably nothing to worry about. The voltage spike when you are trying to start will be causing all the ECU's to get confused.

Have a look at all the high current battery and earth connections to see if they are tight and not corroded.

coopss wrote:

Is this an important plug? Doesn’t look like it’s been used in a while:

On a RRS I had to use my diagnostic tool to tell the car it had a new battery and pair it up as that was throwing all sorts of faults. Once I done that everything was fine

Have you tried just clearing the codes and giving it a go?

I notice there's a message regarding the alternator there, has it ever been replaced?

When the starter motors on our car packed in we'd get a feint clunk from the starter. It wouldn't make the loud clunk as it tried to engage that you're getting.

Our dash didn't go out and come back on either.

Try running a jump lead from the engine to the negative terminal battery as if you've got a bad earth that should in theory bypass it.

Have you tried turning the engine over by hand? Might be worth trying to get a socket on the crank pulley from underneath and seeing if it'll spin.

Did this happen just after you'd switched it off?

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

@aids22 - thanks, will check all the connections for corrosion

@Benrk - I’ll do this reset later and see if it clears. Yep new alternator a couple years ago. Voltage up to over 14v when running

@dhallworth - When it happens again I’ll try this. Oddly started fine twice last last night so I don’t think it’s anything mechanical (thank god)

However - more good news - just discovered the coolant is low and there is a slight creaminess under the oil fill cap. The header tank is also under compression after running for a couple minutes. Is that normal? I dare not drive it now despite it starting

. 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

That sounds like an oil-water emulsion which needs looking into more closely before running it for any length of time.
Post some pictures.
Has the oil cooler gaskets been done? 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Doubt it. Would the gaskets cause this issue, or the cooler itself? 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

Usually gaskets but best practice is to replace the cooler too as they can warp. My old one was and so new gaskets alone would not have fixed it. Usually shows as oil in the coolant. Emulsion in oil cap is sometimes a sign of head gasket. No point speculating without a proper diagnosis by a proper independent RR specialist etc 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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