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coopss



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Coolant in oil - 4.4TDV8

It’s not good folks. Garage drained the oil and found loads of coolant in it. They’re investigating further.

Any obvious failures cause this? Thought the oil cooler would be the other way around; ie oil in coolant.. 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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dhallworth



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There's an oil cooler on these that allow the oil and coolant into the same cooler. It's like a small radiator.

I wonder if it's possible that's failed and is allowing coolant into the oil. It could even be the gasket underneath it rather then the cooler itself.

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David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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coopss



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Thanks. Garage say it’s the head gasket (done the fluid test) so sounds like the end of my time with an L322 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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dhallworth



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Wow. That's some serious bad luck.

I don't think I've read of another 4.4 TDV8 with a failed head gasket before! 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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DrRob



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Censored ! That's rare for a 4.4...
Is that the engine that someone else put in previously? I recall our conversation.
What's the plan? Fix and flog?
Sorry to hear this Big Cry 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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coopss



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@drrob - yes. Lessons learned. Nobody will fix it and tbh I’m not I want to bother 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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RJPotts



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coopss wrote:
Thanks. Garage say it’s the head gasket (done the fluid test) so sounds like the end of my time with an L322


Thats Big Cry Sad

Can their test differentiate between coolant that has got into the oil via the head gasket vs coolant that has got into the oil via the oil cooler? 2010 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black
2010 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Zermatt Silver [Gone]
2003 Range Rover HSE Oslo Blue [Gone]
1985 Camel Trophy 90 (Netherlands Team Vehicle) [Gone]
1990 Camel Trophy 127 (Workshop Vehicle) [Gone]
1989 Camel Trophy 110 (Workshop Vehicle) [Gone]
1998 Camel Trophy Freelander (South African Team Vehicle)
1995 Camel Trophy Discovery 300Tdi (Raft Unit) [Gone]

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dhallworth



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The test that they've likely done has been sniffing for exhaust gases in the coolant I'd imagine. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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RJPotts



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Ah yes, good point......

The only head gasket I've had fail on a car made itself so obvious no additional diagnosis was necessary Surprised 2010 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black
2010 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Zermatt Silver [Gone]
2003 Range Rover HSE Oslo Blue [Gone]
1985 Camel Trophy 90 (Netherlands Team Vehicle) [Gone]
1990 Camel Trophy 127 (Workshop Vehicle) [Gone]
1989 Camel Trophy 110 (Workshop Vehicle) [Gone]
1998 Camel Trophy Freelander (South African Team Vehicle)
1995 Camel Trophy Discovery 300Tdi (Raft Unit) [Gone]

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coopss



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 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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GGDR



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not heard of one head gasket issue
but loads of people have the oil cooler gasket issue
unless the garage really know the 4.4TDV8
then def get a second opinion from one who does
. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

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coopss



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Yeah very uncommon. The garage (decent specialist) have never seen one.

Could be a first, could be something else. Either way I’m done - anyone want it? 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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DrRob



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They are one of the best independent specialists I've ever encountered so I trust them 100% 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
--------------------------------------------------

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coopss



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Likewise Rob. They’ve been excellent 1995 4.6 v8, green/tan (long gone)
2005 4.8iS X5, blue/black
2011 4.4 tdv8, black/black (gone)
2003 3.0d X5, Oxford green/black/manual
2021 p575 SVR, BR green/vintage tan

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dhallworth



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coopss wrote:

Either way I’m done - anyone want it?


I’ve done stupider things… However, thankfully you’re at the opposite end of the country so there’s a chance my wife won’t kill me this time! Laughing 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

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