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Autobiography spec not worth the extra money

An Autobiography just isn't worth it. I have an HSE on order and thought about upgrading it to the AB but the jump in price doesn't get you the same value in extra options. I must be missing something here.....

SWB P440e PHEV Autobiography = £127,665

SWB P440e PHEV HSE = £114,325

The extras that comes with the AB are not worth the £13k+ price differential. By worth I mean that the list prices of the extra options don't add up to £13,000.

What am I missing here please?

Post #641878 3rd Sep 2022 2:15pm
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Flashman



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England 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

Is there additional leather like in the L322, door cards, roof lining, pillars etc that would not be on the options list? Tom

Current Drive
2011 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - Santorini Black - Ivory Leather

Previous Drives
2004 Model Vogue Td6 (Touchscreen) - Java Black - Parchment Leather
1994 RR Classic 3.9 V8 Soft dash - Niagara Grey - Grey Leather
1972 Series III SWB Safari - Green (Hand Painted) - Black Plastic

Post #641880 3rd Sep 2022 3:11pm
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BigFiat



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I worked out my autobiography spec on an HSE equivalent and broadly came to the same price…there’s certainly no discount as far as i could make out, and that’s assuming you value the additional extras. When i challenged the dealer their comment on an up specked HSE, their comment was “it will always be an HSE regardless” …now i saw that as a pretty iffy sales pitch, but at the end of all of this, it comes with meridian signature and if you are upgrading wheels the price differential is close

Post #641888 3rd Sep 2022 4:24pm
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Crocs



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My philosophy is to start with the lowest spec and upgrade to the spec that I want rather than what LR dictates. After 4/5 years, there is little difference in values. The "it'll always be an HSE" comment is so last century.

Post #641892 3rd Sep 2022 4:37pm
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It feels really odd to me: I specced two cars today. One a HSE the other an Autobiography. Both SWB and the P440 PHEV model.

The HSE came to £124.9k. The Autobiography was £135.7k. The only thing I was missing per the dealer from the Autobiography spec on my HSE was:

1. The Signature Sound Sytstem (the HSE comes with the mid rank Meridian sound system)
2. Massage front seats and Executive class rear seats

I cant see anything else, nor could the dealer. And I could add both those options for another £8k. Paying £11k extra for an Autobiography doesn't make sense even if you love the two missing items.

The exact spec of my HSE is in the link below.I really want to spec the Autobiography but cant see it as a waste of money based on the above. There must be something I and the dealer are missing.....

https://build.landrover/CB2BB211

BTW I saw this car in the flesh today (exact colour scheme I mean) and it looked totally awesome.

Post #641898 3rd Sep 2022 6:03pm
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I just did a painful line by line comparison of the brochures for the two cars I specced. Here are the things the AB spec has over my HSE:

1. Signature Meridian Surround (HSE has 3D Meridian surround)
2. Massage front seats with executive rear seats
3. Black painted brake calipers (HSE has unpainted brake calipers)
4. SV bespoke full leather upgrade
5. SV bespoke carpet matts (HSE has standard carpet matts)
6. Autobiography badge
7. Versatile loadspace floor
8. Illuminated metal treadplates
9. Electric rear side window blinds
10. Four zone climate control (HSE has 3 Zone)
11. Configurable programs

So a fair bit more spec. Why cant they produce a brochure to make this stuff easier!!!!!! Worth the extra £11k or so? I am once again torn. Love the idea of the Signature sound system and SV bespoke leather upgrade. Rest i'm not fussed about.

Post #641901 3rd Sep 2022 6:32pm
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aja500



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United Kingdom 2019 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Aruba

For me, it's the small details on the Autobiography models which have always made them feel more premium.

Little things like the stitching on the dashboard and the headlining materials. These are elements which I don't believe you can add to an HSE model, at least I'm sure that's the way it was on the L405 and I suspect it'll be similar on the L460.

Post #641905 3rd Sep 2022 7:54pm
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roverhaul



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United States 2011 Range Rover Autobiography Supercharged Santorini Black

I'm in the US with the same issue.

I'm not sure if it's exactly the same there but here we only get the leather headliner in an Autobiography.

So if I spec an HSE and an Autobiography as close as possible, it's about a $16,000 difference for what amounts to the leather headliner and the upgraded stereo. And yes there are a few smaller differences but those are the big ones.

And I prefer the leather headliner so much that I might be crazy enough to do it.

Post #641914 3rd Sep 2022 9:02pm
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Martin2



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As has been mentioned, if it’s the same as the L405, only the Autobiography has a leather dash, the other models have vinyl and you can’t upgrade it. Was one of the reasons I wanted the AB. I appreciate some people won’t care, but I was used to having full leather and didn’t want my next car to feel like a step back. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold

Post #641915 3rd Sep 2022 9:06pm
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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

just spent the morning in a 460 at a dealer. Really nice interior and far better than the Disco and the Defender (they've gone really cheap and plastic! Shocked )

However was shocked by the rubber/foam stuff they use for the top of the dash. Was not what I was expecting. Even my L322 2011 dash is better. What gives?

Post #641925 3rd Sep 2022 10:49pm
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Dixy



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2016 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Loire Blue

There is one other reason for having an autobiography, it is the only spec for a P530. So if you want a last hurrah for ice then you get mood lighting and a leather headlining weather you want it or not. letters not necessarily in the right order

Post #641928 4th Sep 2022 5:24am
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Lyonhead



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Wales 2019 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Loire Blue

You should do a similar price comparison with the SVO.

Here you will find they are really taking the pxss.

Shocked Thud Thud Thud 19MY SVA-Dynamic Spectral Chromoflair Blue but colour not available in profile
2016 RRS SVR Estoril Blue - Gone
2010 RRS 5.0 Supercharged Navara Bronze - Gone
2008 RRS 4.2 Supercharged Black - Gone
2006 RRS 2.7 Diesel Rimini Red- Gone

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Dixy



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2016 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Loire Blue

But but a Dacia Sandero gets you from A to B
I take comfort that I am supporting the British car industry and the British economy. letters not necessarily in the right order

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Autobiography



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2018 Range Rover SVAutobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

The seat frame and cushioning on the Autobiography is completely different.

As others have said the full leather upgrade (particularly the full leather headlining) is a really lovely touch.

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France 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black

Dixy wrote:
But but a Dacia Sandero gets you from A to B
I take comfort that I am supporting the British car industry and the British economy.


JLR is owned by TATA... Whistle "it needs some intelligence to undestand you may not have enough"

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