Seems one caught fire and destroyed 3,000 and the boat they were on .
Last year exactly the same deal, 4,000 cars and the ship sunk whilst being towed.

Does raise more questions about how sensible the fast dumping of ICE engines really is… should we be extending the cut off date and allowing car manufacturers to feel confident about investing additional R&D

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It hasn’t sunk. And there’s no evidence that the fire was caused by an EV. Graham

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U are correct. No evidence yet.

Ship that sunk with 4,000 luxury cars was the one that caught fire last year, that fire was caused by the batteries.

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I read an article on the incident last year suggesting the cause of the fire wasn’t the EVs. The articles all seem to play on the fact the EV car(s) batteries caught fire. Which is true as the ship caught fire. Once ignited I’m sure multiple EVs didn’t help the situation and possibly accelerated the fire. MY23 PHEV HSE
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Neither would the contents of the fuel tanks on the ICE vehicles either. BMW i3 Electric Car
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^^ They probably only have a minimum of fuel in the tanks. Ron B. VK2OTC
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Less fuel in the tank is actually WORSE, it’s the vapour which is explosive, not the liquid petrol.

You can literally extinguish a lit match in petrol, if the ambient temperature is below the vaporisation temperature of petroleum, but don’t try this at home:



 “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

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^^ They probably only have a minimum of fuel in the tanks.

car fuel tanks are vented .. ... - .- -.




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Indeed they are, where does it vent to? oops, the ships hold. 3000 vehicles all venting their tamks to the ships hold, a lot of vapour that is. BMW i3 Electric Car
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Hi Stan, yes but why?

Not to let the vapour OUT, but rather to allow air IN, otherwise fuel being pumped to the engine would create a partial vacuum in the tank, causing loss of fuel pressure/fuel starvation.

When you fill up an empty petrol car, what do you smell?  “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?

It often does let vapour out otherwise excessive pressure would build up in the fuel tank as the petrol vaporises. Often it's vented to the inlet manifold on newer vehicles via a solenoid valve at appropriate times, my BMW vents via a carbon canister when I press the refuelling button to release the tank pressure. BMW i3 Electric Car
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Ships crews are usually well trained in fire-fighting. When the crew are jumping into the (cold) N.Sea from 100ft off the deck, you know that the fire is not something they can control. It takes a lot of impending danger to make trained fire-fighter types do this. Whether or not the fire was started by an electric car will always be up for debate, but if it wasn't an EV, I suspect the crew would have been able to extinguish it before it spread to the cargo. The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom

No matter what the cause of the fire, a fire developing in the hold has a lot of fuel in there to go at, oil, diesel, plastics and of course the EV batteries once theyre provoked they will burn furiously for a short time. So far as the trained crew members go, usually on vessels they're volunteer seamen to be part of the fire fighting team, probably with very little training in my experience. True competent seamen would have launched the lifeboats in an abandon ship emergency procedure.
You would probably be amazed at what goes on offshore, the equipment, the training, the drills etc. BMW i3 Electric Car
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Cars/Vans/Wagons/Bikes/Tractors etc. with IC engines have been ferried around the world in huge quantities for decades and I don't recall stories of ships catching fire due to the cargo. This could be down to my failing memory or perhaps any incidents went un noticed in the days before 24 hr News scouring the planet for anything even remotely interesting but it strikes me as a bit of a coincidence that now they are carrying EVs (which have developed a reputation for being a fire risk, deserved or not) that there are fires breaking out onboard?
Of course it could just be that many media outlets seem to be emphasising anything negative about EV's for some reason, and it seems to be damaging the EV illusion. The headlines will be fun when the depreciation bombshell sinks in, our company EV's have lost 60% of their value in 2 years, thank God we leased and didn't buy.