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joncorry



Member Since: 18 Dec 2018
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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange
TDV8 Turbo actuator - freed up

My mother took a shine to my old 2010 3.6 TDV8 and it now lives a quiet life up on Skye. One day I got a WhatsApp to say it is a little out of sorts and there is a message saying restricted performance. Oh no…turbos was the initial thought, the local garage even went as far to say it needs to go to a main dealer for that and the bill would be more than the car is worth. Hmmm….

We were heading up for Xmas so in went the ramps and the long nozzle wd40 and the borescope and the code reader….. One quick data log showed the left side (UK passenger) actuator was stuck. DiscoMikey (Mike Park) helpfully and remotely said the code P132E-22 (2F) Turbocharger/supercharger boost control B performance - General Signal failure is usually just the actuator sticking and not a duff turbo.
Up on the ramps it went in the middle of Storm Gerrit and with a few well squirts of the motion lotion and a manipulation of the actuator rod using some thin curved rebar, the actuator freed up and moved freely during the start up and shut down cycle. You can just get to the rod through a hole in the subframe pictured below. Hope this helps one other person out 👍

A nice test drive across Skye confirmed it was working well and providing healthy boost again.


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 2002 L322 4.4V8 - G4 Challenge Car - Australia leg
2003 Defender G4 110
2008 Discovery 3 G4
1968 Series 2a

Post #682227 9th Jan 2024 12:28pm
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Fla



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Ireland 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

This is something I must do to my 4.4 TDV8 before they get stuck, will have to look up the forum and see where they are located. The new WD40 cans with the bendable nozzle could be handy for this work! Current yokes
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JayGee



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Shouldn't be an issue on the 4.4. The only similar system that can get stuck is the turbo diverter valve but as yours is a 2012 it will be the later type which doesn't seize. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #682246 9th Jan 2024 3:24pm
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joncorry



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange

The new metal nozzle does make it a little more doable, you still get excess wd40 over parts but for the most part it makes hitting the target a little easier. 2002 L322 4.4V8 - G4 Challenge Car - Australia leg
2003 Defender G4 110
2008 Discovery 3 G4
1968 Series 2a

Post #682247 9th Jan 2024 3:29pm
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Philip



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JayGee wrote:
Shouldn't be an issue on the 4.4. The only similar system that can get stuck is the turbo diverter valve but as yours is a 2012 it will be the later type which doesn't seize


They do still appear to stick, both L322 and L405, if the car has been stood for a while (or has never had much proper exercise).

Post #682269 9th Jan 2024 7:34pm
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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Another reason I boot my 4.4 TDV8 on every drove when it’s warm.
Secondary function is to reduce any oil build up.
Great story this btw. An old bit of bent bar saves the day. Brilliant Bow down 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
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Post #682280 9th Jan 2024 9:15pm
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u1



Member Since: 23 Jan 2024
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

Thank you for posting this. I have just recently solved the same problem with the driver's side actuator sticking. Fortunately, the (UK) driver's side actuator is a lot more accessible, though it is also a lot more exposed to water and road grime. I was wondering how I was going to get at the passenger side actuator if that became a problem too... many thanks!

Post #684977 7th Feb 2024 6:23pm
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joncorry



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange

No problem U1, hope it helps and yes the drivers side is so simple to get to! 2002 L322 4.4V8 - G4 Challenge Car - Australia leg
2003 Defender G4 110
2008 Discovery 3 G4
1968 Series 2a

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Eastsoutheast



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JayGee wrote:
Shouldn't be an issue on the 4.4. The only similar system that can get stuck is the turbo diverter valve but as yours is a 2012 it will be the later type which doesn't seize.


I have a 2012 4.4 tdv8 and suffered a stuck actuator on the NS/passenger side turbo earlier last year. A local specialist (so called but actually scum bags) told me I needed new turbos but a trustworthy (now I know them) specialist after my car was at the other place for a couple of months, diagnosed a stuck actuator and fitted a new one for £320 all in. They did say they could lubricate for me but was likely to stick again so elected for the replacement. It might have been a little less as they did something else for me also.

Just highlighting as this issue can obviously effect the 4.4 tdv8 so preventative maintenance is likely a good move. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue Santorini black ivory leather

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Eastsoutheast



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

JayGee wrote:
Shouldn't be an issue on the 4.4. The only similar system that can get stuck is the turbo diverter valve but as yours is a 2012 it will be the later type which doesn't seize.


I have a 2012 4.4 tdv8 and suffered a stuck actuator on the NS/passenger side turbo earlier last year. A local specialist (so called but actually scum bags) told me I needed new turbos but a trustworthy (now I know them) specialist after my car was at the other place for a couple of months, diagnosed a stuck actuator and fitted a new one for £320 all in. They did say they could lubricate for me but was likely to stick again so elected for the replacement. It might have been a little less as they did something else for me also.

Just highlighting as this issue can obviously effect the 4.4 tdv8 so preventative maintenance is likely a good move. 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue Santorini black ivory leather

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u1



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Nara Bronze

I do wonder how many people have been stung with turbo replacement jobs when a bit of oil on an actuator was all that was actually needed. I was fortunate that a previous Performance Restricted issue was identified as a sticking actuator by the local main Land Rover dealer in Dungannon. They just oiled it and let me know what the problem had turned out to be. When I had a recurrence of the warning light, it was the first thing I thought to look at, and right enough, that was all it was. I think next time I crawl under there I'll stick some silicon oil on it rather than just WD40 though. A Brace of Bronze:
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2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue SE Nara Bronze in Ivory

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Zeb



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Tonga Green

WD40.. The ' WD ' stands for 'Water dispersant'. It has very limited and short-lived lubricating qualities.

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joncorry



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Tangiers Orange

Very true, but the long metal nozzle is perfect for directing it where you want and it’s the physical manipulation that frees it up. The motion lotion is only a short term aid and that’s all that’s required.
A longer term solution would require more access and a lubricant with little or no flash properties, but silicon spray won’t remove light surface rust like wd does. 2002 L322 4.4V8 - G4 Challenge Car - Australia leg
2003 Defender G4 110
2008 Discovery 3 G4
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RovingCanary



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

Anyone have any pictures of the 4.4 linkages that could cause sticktion? Reading around vacuum hoses can cause similar faults

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