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gttastic



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When is the best time to buy winter tyres?

This is my first year of ownership of a FFRR (bought in April) and I want to buy 4 winter tyres for my TDV8 Vogue. I am tempted by these as they seem good value:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m104b0s2058p8428...11V_XL_TL_

The reason for the question is because it is not always easy to source winter tyres in this country.

Is it better to buy now, or wait till September, October, November etc?

Is there likely to be more or less choice as we get nearer to Xmas?

Are prices likely to be higher or lower as we get nearer to Xmas?

I have already bought a spare set of 4 x 19" FFRR alloys in readiness for winter tyres.

My original spare wheel has a Pirelli Scorpion Zero M+S tyre on it. Would it be okay to still have this tyre as a spare when Wintrac Xtremes are on the other 4 wheels?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Tim in Scotland



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I was looking the other day and all the suppliers I contacted told me they would not be getting any stock or prices until 1st week in September from the big names like Pirelli 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

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do you really need winter tyres?

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scarey wrote:
do you really need winter tyres?


The problem I often hear is that braking can be a problem on summer tyres fitted to a FFRR during snowy & icy conditions.

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the fullfat is very heavy so any braking ,be it with or without winter tyres is going to be a bit tricky....

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Good winter tyres low temp range were a god send last winter it's not getting going that is the problem its getting round the bend and stopping on normal rubber, just got mine last week on 20" Wintrac Extremes best tyre IMO been using them for sometime on var 4x4's inc RRS , Disco's and FFRR site sponsor on here is a dealer i think.

Last year winter tyres not only became near impossible to get but the prices went sky high as well due to short supply. Far to many gone...

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If you can get Winter tyres it DOES make a big difference in snow & Icy conditions due to the softer Silica Compound.

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The tread pattern is also designed to throw out snow so you don't end up with clogged treads. Just sold mine over on RRSport as they weren't the right size for the FFRR or the Evoque. 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

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do you have to tell your insurance co as well when fitting winter tyres, i gather its classed as a modification to the vehicle......

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I've done a fair amount of winter driving in the FFRR and have never needed to use winter tyres. That being said, if money alowed I would probably get some. So if you have the money to spend on some then definately go for some.

19" wheels give you an extra bit of protection if you happen to slide a bit and clip a kerb which is supprisingly easy in the supermarket carpark etc.

The FFRR will do a lot even with some barely legal wranglers:


IMG_0480 by d86cfv, on Flickr 

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My car runs on 20"s but bought set of 19"winter tyres ( Wintrac 4xtreme) which are being delivered tomorrow from Tyremen in Hull. The difference in price between 255/55/19 and 255/50/20 is £35/tyre!!! that difference almost covered the cost of the 19" OE wheels ( virtually unmarked) that I bought on fleabay Very Happy ......
...Got a set of 255/50/19 Wintrac's on OE wheels which came off my Sport that have done under 1100 miles if anyone is interested??

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Jim, Jmac over on RRSport was after my 19" winter tyres on 19" RRS 5 Vee spoke wheels but was beaten to them. Might be worth contacting him 2018 Mini Countryman Cooper S E All4 PHEV in Melting Silver - it’s whisper quiet in EV and polluter modes

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dan_uk_1984 wrote:

The FFRR will do a lot even with some barely legal wranglers:


dans experience is what i'm trying to get over , unless its massively deep snow ,normal tyres would be ok..

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Got to disagree the winter tyres work better on crunchy stuff and ice that is where they are so much better than all weather / standard hard rubber , if you want just deep snow then a big block open tread like a grabber will work Far to many gone...

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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Jim, Jmac over on RRSport was after my 19" winter tyres on 19" RRS 5 Vee spoke wheels but was beaten to them. Might be worth contacting him


Thanks Tim...Just posted there and had 2 PM's already!!!! Thumbs Up

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