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Arbuckle



Member Since: 11 Nov 2018
Location: Northants
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Fuji White
Difficulty bleeding brakes

When I rebuilt my 1972 Range Rover with all new brake pipes, master cylinder and calipers I used an 'easibleed' with no probs.
I have just replaced all the brake pipes with 2012 Westminster and am having a problem getting a firm brake pedal. Do I need to activate the abs module using the 'IIbluetooth' thingey in case there is air trapped inside?
Anyone else had this problem? Suggestions welcome.
Thanks

ps before anyone suggests it, a 'blue tablet' made no difference! Forty years of progress. 1972-2012

Post #718721 28th May 2025 2:48pm
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mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Yes is the answer to that one. Not done it myself but did a bit of research when garage replaced brake pipes and pedal felt strange. Took it back and they had another go at bleeding. All good after that…..

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #718726 28th May 2025 3:06pm
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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

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 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #718727 28th May 2025 3:10pm
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AndyRoo



Member Since: 06 Dec 2023
Location: Gloucester
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Scotland 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Fuji White

Hi,

I had problems when I replaced the front calipers, it was always spongy, but I think it was because the original fluid in there was just plain DOT4. I won't name the people who did it the last time but well known national chain of exhaust & Tyre providers. Yeee Haa boys.

Once I flushed that out completely with DOT4 ESL fluid, which looked a lighter colour as well, pedal was as good as new again.

So make sure you're using the low viscocity stuff and flush it well through as it definately makes a difference.

A. Fuji White / Jet 2012 4.4 TDV8 Westminster

Post #718732 28th May 2025 4:09pm
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Arbuckle



Member Since: 11 Nov 2018
Location: Northants
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Fuji White

Thanks MJ and Andy
Fab prompt responses.

I will break out the Gap iiD and work out how to use it.
Cheers All Forty years of progress. 1972-2012

Post #718736 28th May 2025 4:47pm
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Gremlin500



Member Since: 11 Mar 2022
Location: Newcastle, UK
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United Kingdom 2017 Range Rover Vogue TDV6 Corris Grey

@mjdronfield: Top Man! Bow down Bow down Bow down

Yes, no matter which fullfat you have, bleeding can be a right PITA if you are uninitiated, especially after doing major surgery. I had a right battle on with mine, even using a pressure bleeder, used loads of fluid, because I didn’t run the engine or have the iiD Tool to run the ABS pump, and made a rookie mistake of having no air escape hole in the collection bottle top, (in my paranoia not to spill brake fluid all over my newly-cleaned driveway!) Embarassed Laughing Laughing Laughing

Great to see those instructions Thumbs Up V6 Vogue - “Less is More” - less to go wrong!

Post #718738 28th May 2025 4:51pm
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dhallworth



Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3281

United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

I've tried bleeding using the IID tool and didn't have much success with it.

I've got one of the units that you fill with fluid and pressurise it. Using that and going round the calipers in the correct sequence 3 times always seems to get the desired results for me. I also leave the bleed nipple open for a good bit longer then you'd think necessary too as the fluid will run clear for a bit and then a few more bubbles will appear.

I've done my car twice and a friends car without the IID tool and have got the pedal great.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior
2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Black Edition in Santorini Black with Ebony Interior

Post #718745 28th May 2025 8:17pm
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