Hi Shrop Lass and a hearty welcome from myself as well!
Pixels are a silly issue. I had to do mine before really using the original EASControl as well It is worth it though. Really makes the car seem less... faulty when your not looking at Klingon hieroglyphics. We'd be happy to have you on board as a beta tester.

47p2, it does access most systems but as mentioned, at the moment only fault read/clear aside from the EAS. We hope to rectify a good deal of that with the update coming in a month (or so)... And there is a bug with the 06 TD6 that we're still working on. The EAS diagnostics and programming are better than anything else on the market - including the Faultmate and the OEM T4/IDS.

As far as price goes, I still consider both our units and the RAC to be a bargain. Just a year ago you could not have come close in functionality for this price. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

SteveMFr wrote:

Hi Shrop Lass and a hearty welcome from myself as well!
Pixels are a silly issue. I had to do mine before really using the original EASControl as well It is worth it though. Really makes the car seem less... faulty when your not looking at Klingon hieroglyphics. We'd be happy to have you on board as a beta tester.

47p2, it does access most systems but as mentioned, at the moment only fault read/clear aside from the EAS. We hope to rectify a good deal of that with the update coming in a month (or so)... And there is a bug with the 06 TD6 that we're still working on. The EAS diagnostics and programming are better than anything else on the market - including the Faultmate and the OEM T4/IDS.

As far as price goes, I still consider both our units and the RAC to be a bargain. Just a year ago you could not have come close in functionality for this price.

SteveMFr wrote:

The EAS diagnostics and programming are better than anything else on the market - including the Faultmate and the OEM T4/IDS.

Shropshire lass wrote:

Thanks SteveMFr ,the idea of a tool that can be stored in the glove box and doesnt require a lap top is very good.
Really feel it would be the equivalent of a top notch spare tyre!
Could you pm me the cost Please? Think it will have to be a next month acquisition , gear box flushing was this months sensible purchase.

Here is a thread with more info on the units and ordering info as well.
http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic7139.html
Click the appropriate email link for the product you're interested in and send us your RR MY and motor type and we'll get payment info to you.  
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

ric355 wrote:

Can you explain why you think this is the case? I find it a surprising claim but I'm willing to be convinced.

On the 2002-05 L322, our units offer the option of reprogramming the target heights of each height setting individually, e.g. offroad +20mm, standard 0mm, motorway -25mm, access +xymm. The T4 and IDS only offer the possibility of changing the baseline calibration: standard +xymm and all the rest of the height settings are also +xymm. As far as I am aware, the Faultmate is the same here. And both the IIDTool and the EASControl do an automatic back-up of the EAS height settings upon first use in a vehicle. This allows for an instant restore to original if there are any problems. While this is more important for the private user, the professional version also offers this functionality for the last 25 (have to check that # to make sure) vehicles as well.

When doing diagnostics, the IIDTool allows the inflation/deflation of individual coners vs. simply activating a valve and listening for the click-click. When you've actually pumped up and deflated an airbag you know if the system is working on that corner.

We've also worked hard on making our system user friendly. We have very limited space available in the display, so we've tried to make the system as simple and intuitive as possible while retaining all the functionality of the 'big' units.

And our system is fast. Not only that you don't have to open a computer, find an extension cord, plug in the correct cable, boot the system, etc, - it is simply fast. This is a RRSport, but it's the same in the FFRR: &feature=player_embedded (there are also several vids in the thread I linked to in the post above). 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

SteveMFr wrote:

ric355 wrote:

Can you explain why you think this is the case? I find it a surprising claim but I'm willing to be convinced.

On the 2002-05 L322, our units offer the option of reprogramming the target heights of each height setting individually, e.g. offroad +20mm, standard 0mm, motorway -25mm, access +xymm. The T4 and IDS only offer the possibility of changing the baseline calibration: standard +xymm and all the rest of the height settings are also +xymm. As far as I am aware, the Faultmate is the same here. And both the IIDTool and the EASControl do an automatic back-up of the EAS height settings upon first use in a vehicle. This allows for an instant restore to original if there are any problems. While this is more important for the private user, the professional version also offers this functionality for the last 25 (have to check that # to make sure) vehicles as well.

When doing diagnostics, the IIDTool allows the inflation/deflation of individual coners vs. simply activating a valve and listening for the click-click. When you've actually pumped up and deflated an airbag you know if the system is working on that corner.

We've also worked hard on making our system user friendly. We have very limited space available in the display, so we've tried to make the system as simple and intuitive as possible while retaining all the functionality of the 'big' units.

And our system is fast. Not only that you don't have to open a computer, find an extension cord, plug in the correct cable, boot the system, etc, - it is simply fast. This is a RRSport, but it's the same in the FFRR: &feature=player_embedded (there are also several vids in the thread I linked to in the post above).

I thought we were talking MSV as the others aren't capable of programming. We will be increasing functionality as well.

BTW, just to be clear, I am not knocking Colin's products at all. I think they are great (w/o ever having been a first-hand user either! Have watched the vids, tho. ). And, while calling Colin a (virtual) friend would be going too far (have not had that much contact), he's def a (virtual) acquaintance. We've conversed and discoursed in several forums for quite some time now (around 5 years time flies). 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

SteveMFr wrote:

I thought we were talking MSV as the others aren't capable of programming. We will be increasing functionality as well.

Hi Ric,
I never claimed it was 'better than' the MSV-2. I actually thought that I clearly stated the IIDTools present limitations:

SteveMFr wrote:

47p2, it does access most systems but as mentioned, at the moment only fault read/clear aside from the EAS. We hope to rectify a good deal of that with the update coming in a month (or so)... And there is a bug with the 06 TD6 that we're still working on.

SteveMFr wrote:

The EAS diagnostics and programming are better than anything else on the market - including the Faultmate and the OEM T4/IDS.

And I spent some time trying to explain why I thought that was so several posts up. At the moment the MSV-2 and our unit are incomparable. If you want to be able to play in the CCF or do other things that the T4/IDS can't do (and you want to do it now): buy an MSV.

I was comparing the IIDTool EAS programming and diagnostics to the MSV EAS programming and diagnostics.

I thought that was what you had asked.

Our goal is to have a versatile diagnostic tool with capabilities beyond the T4/IDS - similar to the Faultmate MSV aside from ECU flashing which our little tool will never do. We are not yet there, though.

There is also a professional VIN-unlocked version of the IIDTool available (which is also in use in several garages (including one official LR dealer). Albeit in a beta version. ).

The first non beta units will be on sale through our distributor in the coming weeks, BTW. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)

Thanks for the clarification Steve. I'd say be careful how you compare yourself to others. It's easy to miss the fact that you're an EAS only tool for programming at the moment; the faultmate is as you say functionally richer in many other areas and an EAS-only comparison is perhaps a little over-biased.

I've no affiliation with Faultmate btw; I just felt the "better than" claims needed backing up with some facts.

I like what you've done by the way; it's a well designed tool albeit only in beta

47p2 wrote:

scarey wrote:

...out of the 3 options you have, stevemfr's IIDTool has to be the best...,

Oh booger, [url=[/url] has just bought the RAC unit..........

I like Storey's work (used the EAS cable and software on my P38A)

Have lots of spare laptops

Liked the idea of being able to view/save and printout fault lists / reports

Improved visibility / access to information

Pixels going off on my dash readout, so without fixing this might not be able to see displayed output

Mouse considered easier than having to sit in the car and twiddle the CC buttons (although this is clever!)

Reviewed the software and videos before purchasing - seems to do everything I want it to do

Storey is there for support - and updates

Keeping car for a couple of years more yet, so won't be obsolete if RSW doesn't extend to later models

With USB extension cable I could use the software from the comfort of my study!

No VIN lock (sharp practice in my view!)

Storey should look at cross platforming to Andriod tablet though!

Will also be happy to offer free support to Hampshire / local FFRR forum members


I like the IID Tool, I really do, but plumped for the RAC as my weapon of choice .
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MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

now i like that idea of using an android tablet, especially as i've just brought one..  ... - .- -.




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@Joe

I also bought the all comms..........but am disappointed because it doesn't support ECM on the TDS

@ PaulB (edit)

You mean TD6 ? .
Experience is the only genuine knowledge, but as time passes, I have forgotten more than I can remember
Volvo V70 P2 2006 2.4 Petrol 170bhp Estate SE
MG Midget Mk1 1962

Previous: L322 Range Rover TDV8 3.6 2008; L322 Range Rover TD6 3.0 2002; P38A Range Rover V8 1999

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ric355 wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Steve. I'd say be careful how you compare yourself to others. It's easy to miss the fact that you're an EAS only tool for programming at the moment; the faultmate is as you say functionally richer in many other areas and an EAS-only comparison is perhaps a little over-biased.

I've no affiliation with Faultmate btw; I just felt the "better than" claims needed backing up with some facts.

I like what you've done by the way; it's a well designed tool albeit only in beta

Whew - glad we cleared that up
 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s
(wife thinks I'm nuts - prob right, too)