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sbrhodes



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Suspension Fault - advice please to a newbie

I am a proud new owner of my Range Rover Vogue SE however I have noticed on the dash the message 'Suspension Fault' which then occasionally changes to 'Suspension Fault do not exceed 25mph'

The suspension appears to be working correctly however I have noticed when the dash notice occurs the red light on the suspension height control knob goes off. Turning the ignition off and then back on clears the message only to reappear some time later, but not every time.

maybe unrelated but I have also smelt a burning smell from the front of the car after a run, maybe breaks but maybe suspension related, I don't know.

Not wishing to pay main dealer prices I took the car to a Landrover / Range Rover specialist who reset the fault codes but to no avail.

Does anybody have any suggestions before I take to a main dealer and pay their high prices ?

One point I would add is that the message only seemed to appear shortly after I have jacked the car up to change the wheels to 22" Stormer alloys, but maybe this is merely a coincidence.

many thanks

Post #6010 4th Jun 2009 1:20am
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RRVSE



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Hi, I've got the Vogue SE with the standard 19" alloys, but I'm sure somewhere I read that if you put larger alloys on you had to recalibrate the air suspension etc ( or do the wheels and tyres overall diameter still equal your old ones i.e. old ones presumably 19" + higher profile tyres , new ones 22" with very low profile tyres)?
I could be wrong, but more experienced RR forum guys will point you in the right direction.
Cheers,
Steve Steve

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Post #6013 4th Jun 2009 2:19am
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That will be the usual code fault on the FFRR, most likely it's the small compressor valve inside the boot under the spare wheel that probably just needs taken out and cleaned as sometimes it gets jammed.

Is it a Vogue SE Supercharger or TDV8

Sometime's i get the smell of burning from the Supercharger when i floor it . wouldn't worry too much about it unless you get flames shooting out from the wheel arches Thumbs Up

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I had very similar problems with my suspension when i first got the car - after cleaning out the compressor dump valve in the boot all has been ok its a simple job to do the compressor is in the spare wheel well. there is a thread on here that gave me enough info to do it, after changing a wheel / wheels im sure there is a procedure to follow thru your navigation set up screen to reset distance you should try this first (RTM)- From memory this was how to clean valve..

Drop Vehicle to access height before starting!!
1. remove spare wheel
2. remove screws x4 from compressor set cover
3. looking down at compressor set the valve is towards the front of the car either side there was two black tanks (accumulators)
4. Remove screws out of top of silver valve that has an exhaust silencer sticking out the side of it (brass cone shape piece) should be a spring and another bit in it take note of how they come out.
5.pull out internal silver coloured piece which was under spring ( may need prying gently with tools be careful not to damage)
6. clean up bottom of piece you have removed and remove any debris from inside chamber
7. put evrything back where it came from!!!!!!

You will have lost all air from tanks and will get a few suspension faults after doing this but after a short time with engine running air should be back to normal and all should be good before doing this i generally got faults when trying to get to access height or when going over a bump in the road espically up or down hill.. hope this helps..

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Larry



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Where is the air intake for the air suspension by the way? I presume it takes air from the cabin (as it would be cleaner and not require a vulnerable external intake. Is the air filtered or dried (I am assuming not).

I am going to have a good look at the air system, as it has occured to me that if there is no air drier or method of purging the reservoirs, they will gradually fill up with water and possibly lead to failures due to corrosion. The capacity of the res will also be affected (probably not much though) over time.

The exhaust will also get clogged more if you smoke in the car (see earlier assumption of where the air intake is) or drive in dusty environments.

I will bet that maintenance of the air system is purely fix on failure and not covered by the LR services.

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dan_uk_1984



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There is a dryer/filter incorperated into the system:

Attached to the compressor is the air dryer which contains a silicate box for removing moisture from the compressed air. Air supplied to inflate the air springs passes through the air dryer. When the air springs are deflated, the exhaust air also passes through the air dryer, removing the moisture from the unit. 

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RRVSE wrote:
Hi, I've got the Vogue SE with the standard 19" alloys, but I'm sure somewhere I read that if you put larger alloys on you had to recalibrate the air suspension etc ( or do the wheels and tyres overall diameter still equal your old ones i.e. old ones presumably 19" + higher profile tyres , new ones 22" with very low profile tyres)?


No stock RR ever came with 22" wheels firstly.

The rolling circumference of the factory 18", 19" and 20" alloys with the standard tyre sizes are all the same.

If you fit aftermarket tyres or larger alloys such as 22", then you are messing with the basics. What effect this has exactly I am not sure, have never seen the point of 22" wheels. Discovery 4 HSE
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sbrhodes



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Many thanks for the advice received, it's all a bit above my head but am booked in with the Landrover / Range Rover specialist tomorrow so will print off these responses and ask him to check.
I think the forum site is fab as there obviously seems to be some very knowledgeable people here happy to help.
Thanks again and I hope this ends up a simple fix without too much expense.

Post #6028 4th Jun 2009 10:45pm
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sbrhodes



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In answer to a couple of the questions raised I have the TD6 Vogue SE.

I am running 22" Stormer alloys with 35 profile tyres, the car will never be going off road and I installed these wheels as they look fantastic and although not my prime concern actually improve all be it slightly the road holding and driving characteristics.
Again thanks for all the assistance.

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My local stealer advised that RR do supply genuine 22" in the USA

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*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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sbrhodes



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Just a quick update, I got the fault fixed and it was indeed the exhaust valve and the drier on the compressor, many thanks for all the assistamce.

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BrianC



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hi can i ask were the exhaust valve is and the dryer? when i looked under my spare wheel the tank is sealed do i need to open this up ? its a facelift model 55plate and its saying there is a suspension fault

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Larry



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The compressor is under the black cover (coated underneath in soundproofing) that looks like a tank under the spare wheel. Remove a few screws and you're in.

The exhaust valve is a bronze sintered conical item about 2cm long at the back. It just unscrews.

If there are signs of verdegris (green/grey deposits), the filter needs replacing or just removing (it only acts as a silencer, and when I removed mine I didn't hear anything untoward). You can "blow through" with air to clean it, but it isn't very effective and won't last long. I would then follow pyramid1235's advice if you still don't solve the problem.

LR charge about £7-8 for a replacement. The same item costs about £1 anywhere else (air tool suppliers etc). May be safer to go to LR if you're worried about matching threads and flow rates etc.


Sintered Bronze filter

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hi thanks for the help if i open the black unit will i need to reseal this ? to stop air leaking again -when i bought the car it sometimes makes a popping sound from the black box as if the air is pressurising inside this unit is that normal??

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