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ahebron



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I do find the FFRR rolls a bit more than my old 300TDi Disco which in turn rolled more than my 110 County V8. But I find it more reminiscent of the Rover P6 V8 and Fiat 130 V6 that I used to own, when cornering in those you would lean the car over and they would corner very well but with ridiculous body roll.

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47p2



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Yes they do roll, great fun if you are the driver but not the passenger Laughing Laughing

Post #128501 29th Jun 2012 11:20pm
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jim2RRs



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United States 2005 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Chawton White

Cross-linked air suspension only works when the vehicle determines it is "off road".

RAVE wrote:
The air suspension ECU senses that the vehicle is off-road by comparing rapid changes in signals from the height sensors. The operation of the cross-link valves is fully automatic, requiring no driver intervention.
The cross link valve operates only in off road mode and its operation is governed by the off road mode speed threshold.

RAVE also wrote:
The system will temporarily inhibit height adjustments when the vehicle is subject to cornering, heavy acceleration or heavy braking. The inhibit function prevents unsettling of the vehicle by reducing the effective spring rates.

The vehicle determines "cornering, heavy accelation or heavy braking" based on a sensor in the center console.
If that sensor is faulty, it may cause problems.
This sensor also feeds the DSC system, which will selectively brake individual wheels and/or reduce engine power to help reduce unstable conditions in turns.
I haven't owned a "car" for more than 15 years; I don't even remember what it feels like to drive something with a center of gravity closer to the ground than 4 feet... Smile Jim
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farrellelion



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Portugal 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Java Black

I was unhappy with the rolling of my 2002 FF on first usage.But now, I find that I easily loose those suppositories up my tailpipe.I find it a well balanced vehicle, but you must corner in MANUAL MODE . Change down, and accelerate hard through the corner-- a Porsche mechanic once told me he loved the 911's behavior in a corner - don't be afraid, if you are in the correct gear(only possible in manual), the more you crap yourself, the harder you stand on the gas. I'm amazed at the cornering ability of this TD 6 .This is aided by good tires and there's no wallowing effect. In automatic however, you shouldn't be going at speeds that cause much roll, the ride is definitely on the soft side. 2002 Vogue TD6
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RenoHuskerDu



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I will try using manual mode to corner today. Shock absorbers are also suspect in this vehicle. I will dig thru the dealer service records soon and see if they have been renewed yet. Reno, on assignment in France.

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ebajema



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Just get an S/C, they corner quite nicely Smile MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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47p2



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^^^ Sideways Shocked

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if you do decide to purchase this fullfat then consider investing in steve's IIDTool which will allows you to lower the suspension so that it handles better around corners..member DMRR has done this ... ... - .- -.




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RenoHuskerDu



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ebajema wrote:
Just get an S/C, they corner quite nicely Smile


Is there truly a difference in the suspension of supercharged models? Reno, on assignment in France.

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DMRR



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South Africa 2009 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Stornoway Grey

S/C has stiffened anti rollbars, the same has been achieved on my TDV8 with a 15mm lowering all round. I would say my TDV8 handles better now than my previous 5.0SC and 4.2SC. Land Rover Addict
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ebajema



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http://www.rangerovers.net/modelspecs/L322/2006.html

According to this and other articles I have read, the S/C are set up for "going faster". Mine handles very well but to be honest I hardly ever (get a chance to) use it. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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RenoHuskerDu



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"Less publicized was the fact that as a result, wheel travel on the Supercharged model was reduced form 10.75 to 7.5 inches at the front, and 13 to 11 inches at the rear."

Everything in this world comes at a cost. If actual wheel travel was reduced, then the car is not just simply sitting lower. The suspension geometry was changed. Interesting, more like an L320, eh? Reno, on assignment in France.

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Quote:
"Less publicized was the fact that as a result, wheel travel on the Supercharged model was reduced form 10.75 to 7.5 inches at the front, and 13 to 11 inches at the rear."


Caused by stiffened anti-roll bars Smile Land Rover Addict
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ebajema



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New Zealand 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

I can't compare the two as I have never driven a RRS (been in one but that is different). The S/C is very fast for a heavy lump and handles much much better than I am used of big heavy cars (Toyota Landcruiser, GMC Vandura etc.). I personally don't care about reduced suspension travel as I don't need it with my S/C.

Considering the test reports worldwide on the FFRR, the reduced travel does not seem to have reduced the fact that the FFRR is still considered the best 4WD in the world Smile MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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RenoHuskerDu



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DMRR wrote:
... Caused by stiffened anti-roll bars Smile


Strictly speaking, unless the A/R bars are structural links in the suspension geometry or something along those lines, then stiffening them should have no effect on wheel travel at all. Unless of course you hold one wheel in a fixed position and measure only the travel on the other side Laughing but that would be python-esque parody now wouldn't it. As our yank friends would say: just sayin' - not trying to pick nits.

But seriously, if there is less travel, then it's not just A/R bars that they tweaked. Now I'm curious. Reno, on assignment in France.

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