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Full Fat Ray



Member Since: 23 Jan 2014
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Wales 2006 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey
Slow to warm up / not getting there

Evening all,
Have done a search on here, but can't find the answer I am looking for. Big Cry

Until recently, the FF used to warm up fairly quickly, and the temperature gauge never moved from vertical (i.e half way between cold and hot). Cool

It then started occasionally going more towards the cold end of the scale (often when travelling downhill it seemed) before recovering to its normal position. Question

Now, it hardly ever gets above 1/4 of the way between cold and hot. I am not losing coolant, and don't think there is an air lock - not being familiar with the cooling system, is there a 'waxstat' type thermostat on the AJV8, and if so, could it have stuck open (a common problem on defenders I have run over the years) Thud

If not this, what else should I look for, and where physically will I find it on the car?

Thanks for any help you can offer. Thumbs Up 2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

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dan_uk_1984



Member Since: 12 Nov 2008
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Tonga Green

Sorry to resurrect an old post, but did you ever get to the bottom of this?

My 4.2sc (same basic engine) has similar symptoms. 

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MR GLOVER



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue




change thermostat sorted Thumbs Up

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dan_uk_1984



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Tonga Green

Had a new thermostat last week...

I get (what I assume is) belt squeal on startup that lasts for about 5 minutes in the mornings.

When I go home at 6PM I don't get the squeal and the car warms up fine. 

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

I'd get the belt changed and check the belt tensioner is working correctly... It could seize up when cold and then free off when sat in a warm engine bay while your at work and be fine on the way home.... Pete

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ebajema



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New Zealand 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

When I changed the belt on my 4.2 SC, is also changed the tensioner roller. Same issue although in Nigeria the engine was warming up fine Wink. The tensioner roller bearings seize up over time and that is causing the squeal and belt wear. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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Welshdragon



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Wales 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Monte Carlo Blue

I believe Ray just changed the thermostat and was ok after, the old one was sticking. If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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kezbo1981



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

What is described is typical of the thermostat sticking open, seems quite common on the jag engines - first thing I did when I got my 4.2 sc. you need to loosen the tensioner to remove the belt to get access so if the squeel has Coe bout after that something isn't right.

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georgedb



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South Africa 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

What is the cause for the thermostat to be "sticky" or "stick open"?

Asking as I experienced such a scenario about 2 weeks ago in the morning travelling by-roads onto freeway, when it took the temp needle about an hour to start climbing. Ambient temp was pretty cold but that should have not had a impact; correct?

In my instance there was no belt screaming present.

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kezbo1981



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

The thermostat is either controlled by wax or sprung metal that when hot opens a valve (normally plunger based) and directs water into the radiator circuit. Over time the spring or wax can tire / break or corrosion can set in reducing the motion or moving parts, or something could get lodged in the valve keeping it open.

In mine the rubber sealing ring around the thermostat valve had broken down lodging the thermostat open.

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Zirconblue



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

exactly, the thermostat just wears out basically. They're old and generally reliable tech, but they don't last for ever.

Most Haynes manuals still have the method for bench testing a thermostat, but to be honest they're so cheap these days it's just as easy to fit a new one as soon as you suspect a faulty one.

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georgedb



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South Africa 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Java Black

Thanks guys.

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ebajema



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New Zealand 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

When in doubt, I always replace a thermostat. Not worth the hassle of opening up the housing and then testing it, finding out it is not OK and buying a new one and putting it in. Just easier, buy a new one, drop it in and done. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

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