Advertise on fullfatrr.com »

Home > Technical (L322) > Key won't turn in ignition. SCL / ESL / ELV emulator solved.
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 1
Print this entire topic · 
TimperleyRR



Member Since: 13 Aug 2016
Location: Manchester
Posts: 49

United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue SE Td6 Buckingham Blue
Key won't turn in ignition. SCL / ESL / ELV emulator solved.

Just solved the dreaded key won’t turn in ignition problem in my 2006 L322 with the ESL emulator.
Cause as described elsewhere is likely the locking pin actuator in the steering lock ECU not disengaging – hence preventing the steering lock coming on. Fortunate as this leaves the car driveable, but if the immobilisation ECU does not see a lock confirmed signal from the former ECU when you take the key out it will not allow the key to turn again.
Test to confirm you have the same issue:
Remove and reconnect Fuse 18 (power to steering lock and immobiliser ECUs) allows starts till key taken out.
Remove and reconnect steering lock harness connector (power to steering lock ECU only) allows starts till key taken out.



I bought the Range Rover SCL / ESL / ELV emulator from the first of the following sites:
Pay in Dollars: http://cartools.lv/Shop/product_info.php?c...ucts_id=32
Pay in Euros: http://www.ecuvonix.com/range-rover-sclesl...-2934.html
(I think it only works till 2006 despite what the first website says).
They both seem to come from the same source and their response to requests for technical support is similarly monosyllabic and cryptic.
My experience was as follows:
With key out:
Disconnect connector C2055. Plug emulator into connector. Key will now turn but engine will not start. Reason – the Park/Neutral signal coming in at pin 3 is not being output by emulator to pin 5 as it is in the real ECU. Solution- solder a wire between pins 3 and 5 on emulator (see reverse of circuit board for identification of pin 1). Plug emulator back in – key turns, engine starts, happy days.
Steering lock motor now has no power so my assumption is it cannot now go on. Further as the fuse in and out trick works then this must be because the hall effect sensor has confirmed that the safety release solenoid actuator locking pin is fully in – anyone disagree with this logic.
“When a valid key is inserted and confirmed, the steering lock ECU activates the steering lock motor in the unlock direction. Movement from the locked to the unlocked position is detected by the Hall sensor in the motor and sensed by the steering lock ECU. When the Hall sensor detects that the unlocked position has been reached, the ECU brakes the motor. The safety release solenoid actuator is de-energised and its spring loaded pin drops into a recess in the locking bolt. This forms a mechanical lock securing the locking bolt in the unlocked position preventing the steering lock from being applied when the vehicle is being operated. A Hall sensor in the safety release solenoid actuator informs the steering lock ECU of this condition. Once the unlocking procedure is successfully performed, the steering lock ECU de-energises the steering lock motor. Once the steering is successfully unlocked, the ignition switch lock disengages allowing the key to be turned to positions II and III.”

Post #499668 25th Dec 2018 10:10pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Mulcher



Member Since: 08 Aug 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 238

England 2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Zambezi Silver

Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up 2006MY 4.2 SC
BMW R1250 GSA Rallye TE
Triumph Tiger 1050 (sold)
1979 Pontiac Trans Am (sold)

Post #499695 26th Dec 2018 3:22pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Meerbusch



Member Since: 16 May 2012
Location: Zürich (CH) + Düsseldorf (D)
Posts: 285

United Kingdom 

what a junk......

thanks so much says the thief, also your insurance is so happy, they have not to pay. And if the thief is driving over a child, your house will be away....

The emulator costs the half of a repair in Germany of this problem.

Best Christmas wishes, Uli TDV8 4.4 from 2012, 278.000km like new + Lancia Flavia Coupe 1964 + RRS L494 3.0 SDV6 + C220CDI Convertible 2021

Post #499702 26th Dec 2018 5:34pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
fullfatrr.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site