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GrunterNI



Member Since: 30 Oct 2020
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey
Bloody air suspension!!!

For the past 6 or 7 weeks Ive had the "HDC Fault - System Inactive" and "Suspension Fault" along with the yellow ABS and brake warning dash lights illuminated permanently on my dash along with a ream of bongs. Although irritating, this in itself has not been a problem as my motor has been driving fine......until today!!

I headed out and got no further than half a mile before BONG and a suspension fault and speed warning 30mph max appeared on the dash. As usual I was yeah whatever, until I headed out onto the main road. As I picked up speed the motor was bouncing about like it had no shocks so I stopped and when I jumped out I discovered that the suspension had decided to s*!t itself and drop onto the bump stops, so I spun around and very gingerly returned home.

Got home, plugged in my newly acquired IID tool and there were a multitude of faults, the majority to do with the suspension, funnily enough, however another fault code was U1026-87(2F) - lost communication with steering angle sensor module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message, so first I recalibrated the steering wheel, cleared the faults and out went the HDC Fault message, the two warning lights and the centre console lights for the suspension came back on again. BIG PAT ON THE BACK FOR ME, or so I thought Rolling Eyes

Ignition off, ignition on and....BONG....Suspension Fault and out went the height adjustment and special programs wheel lights but no dash lights this time so I jumped out to check the suspension and it was slightly back up off the stops but still lower than access height and when I checked the IID tool I found the following faults :


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Ive just been out to the garage again and it has risen again to approximately access height and when I switched on the ignition all the centre console suspension lights remained lit, until BONG - Suspension Fault and lights out again and Special Programs Off displayed on the touchscreen Censored

Initially I suspected that one of the airbags had suddenly let go but as the car has regained some height Im discounting that. However what I have realised is that at no time have I heard the compressor running to reinflate the suspension, although its obviously been running at some time, so I am leaning more towards that as the possible cause of my problems as I have always had intermittent Suspension Fault and Vehicle lifting slowly fault warnings since buying the RR just over a year ago.

Any thoughts, advice or technical guidance as always would be greatly appreciated and hopefully stop me pulling out any more hair Crying or Very sad Current collection :

2007 Vogue TDV8 Stornoway grey, black on black
1982 JCB Sitemaster (resto)
1970 MGB
BMW R1200GS

Post #615437 9th Dec 2021 1:26am
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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

"as I have always had intermittent Suspension Fault and Vehicle lifting slowly fault warnings since buying the RR just over a year ago."

Don't blame the fatty, it's been telling you for a year that it had a problem, if you ignore them, they tend to get worse...

Maybe start with the compressor and system vent and take it from there... Thumbs Up Pete

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Bl4ckD0g



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Netherlands 2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Santorini Black

Yup pretty amazing it’s been going well for a year. I do think the bum gauge ometer is differently calibrated for different people as I’m very sensitive to these things. I notice it immediately in mine, and even in my daughters evoque I noticed it when we were buying it and the owner said it rides fine.

It could be just the compressor, but as you e been ignoring this for a while I’d suggest you’d take it to a specialist and get it properly looked at.

Post #615447 9th Dec 2021 7:02am
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alanm_3



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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

I had the “filling too slow” message for ages and replaced the compressor twice but finally tracked it down to a hole in the reservoir tank, which was replaced and all is well. Thumbs Up Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey


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Post #615453 9th Dec 2021 9:40am
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dingg1



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2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

Probably had a leak somewhere for a while and your compressor is now past its best and finally thrown its hand in, try find the leak, try running the compressor and checking the output.

Post #615458 9th Dec 2021 10:38am
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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

The first fault suggests that the brass exhaust filter is blocked, which is easily fixed with a small drill bit. The other faults suggest that the compressor has problems of which there could be several causes.

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GrunterNI



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Thanks for all your replies guys, they’re really appreciated Thumbs Up Here’s a quick update……

With the help of my new IID tool I managed to clear all the suspension faults and the compressor began running again. I lifted the cover off the unit and immediately heard a slight hiss so began checking the compressor connections. The pipe arrowed in the photo appears to be letting air out and moves quite freely and when I first moved it slightly a puff of white dust came from it.

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The compressor was filling the bags really slowly and kept overheating, so with the assistance of some compressed air continually blowing over the piston it kept going until the system refilled. Lifted it up to off-road height, dropped it to access height, returned it to road height and took it for a good long run, all without drama, then parked it overnight. One thing I did notice was that the front end came up to height quite quickly however the rear took ages to lift, if this is of any relevance? This morning all was good however when I drove off the compressor kicked in and after a short while I got the "vehicle lifting slowly" dash warning followed shortly thereafter by "suspension fault vehicle height locked" and the EAS button lights went out. Headed off regardless, done 50 odd miles and at present the suspension remains inflated but the fault remains.

So I think it’s safe to say that there is an air leak, if not at the compressor then elsewhere and this is why the compressor keeps kicking in then eventually overheating resulting in a "suspension fault" warning. So my latest question is, would a compressor rebuild suffice or would I be better replacing the unit with a new one? This is the unit fitted :

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What make of unit is this and if a rebuild will work, does anyone know where I can get an overhaul kit for it, as one thing I really hate is replacing things that can be easily repaired or refurbished? Secondly, if debris has been blown through the system, are there balancing valves or similar that can block? If so can they be cleared with compressed air or would they need replaced?

I have four OEM height sensors waiting to be fitted, so I’ll start with sorting the compressor, replace the sensors, re calibrate the height then hunt down any leaks and repair or replace any leaking pipes or components as necessary, so it looks like the next week is going to be yet another Range Rover adventure Rolling Eyes

Updates to follow…… Current collection :

2007 Vogue TDV8 Stornoway grey, black on black
1982 JCB Sitemaster (resto)
1970 MGB
BMW R1200GS

Post #615778 10th Dec 2021 10:51pm
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Tinman



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United Kingdom 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Silicon Silver

If you do go down the replacement route only fit the AMK unit, I fitted a cheap Dunlop and it only lasted 16 months Big Cry

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Once inflated the suspension should not deflate even if you disconnect the compressor. I would suggest the issues is with a leaking suspension bag or pipe or valve block. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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GrunterNI



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Thanks for that info JayGee because my simple mind was thinking that a leak at the compressor would also cause the suspension to drop. The previous owner replaced the reservoir below the drivers side so I suspect that there must have been a problem then.

If I can pick your brain a bit more, once filled, how is the air retained in the airbags if I can disconnect the compressor but not lose height? Is that what the valve blocks in the wheel arches control? Current collection :

2007 Vogue TDV8 Stornoway grey, black on black
1982 JCB Sitemaster (resto)
1970 MGB
BMW R1200GS

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I'm no expert on this but .......as you can change the compressor and the system doesn't deflate there are valves as well. These regulate normal height changes and the pump keeps the reservoir full. The pump itself can't generate the large volume of air necessary for say going from access to offroad quickly and the reservoir does this. Unfortunately there are numerous places for the system to leak. The GAP IID tool will help identifying a faulty compressor or valve but not a leak. Your ear and some plumbers gas leak fluid/spray will help. Plenty of info on this forum via the search function 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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alanm_3



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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

As I mentioned above, mine turned out to be the reservoir. I also changed the valve block on the O/S rear, which ultimately wasn’t my problem.
I also had the “vehicle raising slowly” message and it would often take about 5 minutes for the car to raise.
Get yourself some soapy water in a spray bottle and start looking for bubbles. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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GrunterNI



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Thanks alanm_3, once I get the compressor rebuilt and the sensors changed that'll be the route I'll be going by the looks of it Current collection :

2007 Vogue TDV8 Stornoway grey, black on black
1982 JCB Sitemaster (resto)
1970 MGB
BMW R1200GS

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alanm_3



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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

It would be a quick check for the reservoir. It runs from front to back under the N/S cill, a liberal spray of the soapy water will produce lots of bubbles if it’s leaking, much quicker that changing valve blocks etc.
it was the last thing I thought it could be but when I removed it, it was so rusty, I was amazed it still held any air at all, and given your location and age of car, there’s a good chance yours will have been subjected to the same weather as mines. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

Post #615824 11th Dec 2021 11:23am
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GrunterNI



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

It was replaced about 6 or 7 months before I bought it and still looks like new so its not the reservoir. Soapy water, patience and several cups of tea it's going to have to be Current collection :

2007 Vogue TDV8 Stornoway grey, black on black
1982 JCB Sitemaster (resto)
1970 MGB
BMW R1200GS

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