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telly-addict



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Scotland 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey
[found] Detachable Towbar and electrics to fit MY2011

My old 2008 had one but my new 2011 doesn't which is a bit crap obviously. No I didn't check when I got the car, don't think I've even seen another RR without one fitted... Rolling Eyes

Anyhoo, looking for one now. If no luck here I may just get a new one. Cam

2011 TDV8 Vogue in Stornoway Grey

Post #653843 17th Jan 2023 10:13pm
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Proftinkerpot



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Check out the towbar store on ebay. £305 for a new Westfalia detachable. Great price as they were £1500 plus in 2016 from Land Rover.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334351825098?mk...media=COPY

Post #653854 17th Jan 2023 11:15pm
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rjff



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Telly-addict

I'm assuming you do not have the armature that fits across the car with the receiver for the swan neck?

The part referrred to by ProfT is, IIRC, only the swan neck ball fitting.

Westphalia no longer supply the armature so it will have to be used. I understand the swan neck and perhaps the farmers' hitch are available because they are "wearing" parts.

I'm not sure if other tow bar manufacurers still make for the L322, perhaps others on here may know of one or two.

HTH Cheers
Richard

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Post #653859 18th Jan 2023 7:48am
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telly-addict



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rjff wrote:
I'm assuming you do not have the armature that fits across the car with the receiver for the swan neck?

The part referrred to by ProfT is, IIRC, only the swan neck ball fitting.

Westphalia no longer supply the armature so it will have to be used. I understand the swan neck and perhaps the farmers' hitch are available because they are "wearing" parts.


Yes you're absolutely correct, there's no armature with receiver. Bizarrely there is a detachable swan neck in the storage area though... Question Cam

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Proftinkerpot



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Apologies telly adict, I thought that was the entire thing.

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rjff



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No armature? That's b****y annoying.

This is a link to what should be there if it's of use to you

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=westpahlia+range...amp;ia=web

just search images

I believe there was a slight change in the armature at about 08/09 to accomodate different exhaust hanger positions but if you are handy then there is a write up on here about a mod.

Grandmother and eggs time, Smile the swan neck fits into a vertical receiver which in turn has a square (2") extension which fits into the armature. Those are the £285 bit. The electrics connection, if specced new, will have a grey multi plug in the spare wheel well on the left hand rear bulkhead, the loom going through an adjacent hole with grommet to the trailer plug. That's about £30. If you look at

vindecoderz.com

and enter your vin no. then, if the site works, you should see the spec for the car. It should show if tow preparation was done. That's the bit which will have the 'well connection plug.

HTH Cheers
Richard

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Post #653985 19th Jan 2023 8:46am
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telly-addict



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Thanks Richard I'll have a look later hopefully. Missus is using my car today as there's snow everywhere Rolling Eyes




Proftinkerpot wrote:
Apologies telly adict, I thought that was the entire thing.
Thumbs Up Cam

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Post #654012 19th Jan 2023 11:48am
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rjff



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Good luck with your search for a bar. Let us know how you fare.
PF Jones may be of help for some parts that are still available, pricing seems as good as anywhere on what's available.

Snow......not a word we use much here, couple of days around Christmas. Blue skies, sunny but a llittle frosty now Cheers
Richard

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Post #654014 19th Jan 2023 12:22pm
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telly-addict



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Well this one seems reasonable... Rolling Eyes

Found this one that's very reasonably priced, fairly new, includes wiring but is fixed. Although it's for pre-facelift I should imagine it'll fit with minor work? Cam

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rjff



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Cam

Just spoken to P F Jones and if I understand them, and they me on your model year, a new Witter towbar (R32B) for the FullFat is £180. Should include delivery too. Sadly not removable.

Give them a ring if you wish. Just make sure they know your car model year and that the ball is included etc.. Electrics will be about £30.


https://www.pfjones.co.uk/witter/R32B.pdf Cheers
Richard

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telly-addict



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Thanks Richard that's very good of you to check for me. I'll give them a call once I've got a few eggs in my basket dealt with Thumbs Up Cam

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rjff



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You're welcome and hope you find what you need Very Happy Cheers
Richard

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rjff wrote:
No armature? That's b****y annoying.

This is a link to what should be there if it's of use to you

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=westpahlia+range...amp;ia=web

just search images

I believe there was a slight change in the armature at about 08/09 to accomodate different exhaust hanger positions but if you are handy then there is a write up on here about a mod.

Grandmother and eggs time, Smile the swan neck fits into a vertical receiver which in turn has a square (2") extension which fits into the armature. Those are the £285 bit. The electrics connection, if specced new, will have a grey multi plug in the spare wheel well on the left hand rear bulkhead, the loom going through an adjacent hole with grommet to the trailer plug. That's about £30. If you look at

vindecoderz.com

and enter your vin no. then, if the site works, you should see the spec for the car. It should show if tow preparation was done. That's the bit which will have the 'well connection plug.

HTH


So I did the vindecoderz thing and a couple of things seem off to me. It states that the colour is Orkney Grey when I'm pretty sure it's Stornoway Grey...also 260 PS??


 Build Sheet

Brand   LAND ROVER
Name   Range Rover (GCAT) 2010-2012
Registration   0007OPM
Speccodes   Interior Trim Combinations - Jet Ox Lthr Sts Jet/Jet Int [TDD]; CD Player - CD autochanger [025DJ]; Fixed Rear Camera - Rear View Camera [086FA]; Drive Hands - RHD [251SF]; Dealer List - Europe [273AA]; Headlamps - Xenon Headlamps [064CO]; Steel / Alloy Options - 8.5X20 Style 9 7X2 V Spoke Alloy [029MX]; Centre Console - Material / Finish - Console Lid Leather [088EM]; Wheel Nuts - Locking wheel nuts [055AC]; Cigar Lighter - Cigar Lighter and Front Ashtray [088CJ]; VIN prefix position 5 - VIN prefix position 5 - M [140AP]; Volumetric Protection - Volumetric protection of the interior [076DM]; Wood Trim - Grand Black Wood (12) [088EH]; Emission Directives - EU5 + DPF Emissions [053BZ]; Rear Seat Configuration - 60:40 split - Folding [033CY]; Tunnel Console - Jet Tunnel Console [080CG]; VIN prefix position 11 - VIN prefix position 11 - A [146AA]; Transmission - Auto 8 Speed Trans ZF 8H70 [078BT]; Equipment Stowage - Standard Tools [056AX]; Glazing - Laminated Side Glass [047AM]; Mirror Operation - Memory Mirrors [030AG]; Digital Radio Receiver - DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) [025JB]; Vehicle Information Control System - Traffic Message Channel (TMC) [087AG]; Headlamp Leveling - Dynamic Headlamp leveling [064BR]; VIN prefix positions 1-3 - VIN prefix positions 1-3 - SAL [138AA]; Park Heating - Park Heating With Remote Control [043AV]; Air Conditioning - Front Comfort Air Con (IHKA5) [022AY]; Power Unit Series - 4.4 Diesel V8 [200AR]; Land Rover Model Year Indicators - 2012 Model Year [001BS]; Navigation Mapping Disc DVD - Euro Mapping DVD Disc [025GT]; Towing Equipment - Towing Prep ROW [028BR]; Wheel & Tyre Configurations - Tyres Pirelli [029BA]; Body Types - 4 Door Estate [099AB]; Drop in Mats (Front) - Less Throw In Front Mats [079AW]; Steering Wheel - Prem Lthr HTD Multi Function Steer Wheel [032DH]; Range Rover Trim Packs - Vogue Diesel UK [250AG]; VIN prefix position 6 - VIN prefix position 6 - A [141AA]; VIN prefix position 4 - VIN prefix position 4 - L [139AD]; Interior Trim Finish - TPO Trim Finish [088CV]; Facia Contrast Colours - Jet / Jet IP Facia [038CK]; VIN prefix position 9 - VIN prefix position 9 - 3 [144AW]; Spare Wheel Type - Emergency Wheel [050AP]; Connection Ports - IPOD Link Lead [015AC]; Derivative Badges - Vogue Badge [057AZ]; Rear Treadstrips - RR DR Treadstrips - Range Rover [048AV]; Screen Heating - Heated Windscreen [040AK]; Facia Console - Mid Leather Facia [088FW]; Television - Dual View Touch Screen [129AG]; Seat Trim - Oxford Leather [033CR]; Seat Colour Combination - Jet / Jet [034DG]; Headlining - Ivory Headlining [032CV]; Instrument Packs - MPH / KPH Instrument Pack [038AN]; Finishing Front End - Mesh Grille/Nobel Santorini Surround [064EV]; VIN prefix position 8 - VIN prefix position 8 - J [143AI]; Seat Features - High Spec ( 10 Way DRV ) Seat [033GT]; Console Material - TPO Console [088FB]; VIN prefix position 10 - Vin prefix postion 10 -C [145AX]; Interior Mirrors - Electro Chromic Interior Mirror [031CG]; Mudflaps - No mudflaps [023AP]; Door Casing - Material - Door casings - Style 2 [090CB]; Paint Bands - Metallic Paint [024AZ]; Transmission Type - Paddle Shift [078BR]; Battery Back-Up - BBUS with Tilt Sensor [076EG]; Sunroof - Sunroof-Glass Tilt and Slide - Electric [019AT]; Tyre Grades - All Terrain Tyres [029FM]; Literature Packs - Home Market Literature Pack [002BA]; VIN format type - VIN format - EEC [147AA]; Rear Seat Style - High Range Rear Seat [033HV]; In Car Entertainment / Speakers - Premium ICE Branded [025GQ]; Interior Lamps - Interior Courtesy Light [064CT]; Weight Plates - 3200kg [097BG]; Carpet Colours - Jet Carpet [124AH]; Limited Editions - Supercharged Design Pack [036JL]; Power Train & Drive - Adaptive Dynamics [027CW]; Seat Heating - Heated Seats - Front and Rear [033EQ]; Paint Colours - Orkney Grey [949]; Smokers Pack - Smokers Pack [094AA]; Interior Trim Upper - Morzine/Ivory [035DA]; Gear Knobs - Rotary Gear shift knob [117AH]; Mirror Parking - Electric fold flat capability dr mirrors [030AV]; Navigation Systems - Colour Nav. System [025EM]; MIL Light Disable - Mil Light Enabled [067BR]; Front Treadstrips - FT DR Treadstrips - Range Rover [048AR]; Market Constraint - Order Restriction GBR [201AA]; Windscreen Glass - Standard Windscreen [047AO]; Cruise Control - Manual Cruise Control [065AE]; Rear Sunvisor - Less Rear Seat Vanity Mirror [115AM]; VIN prefix position 7 - VIN prefix position 7 - M [142AH]; Exterior Vents - Power Vent Body Colour - Nobel Mesh [080DV]
InteriorEnvironment   Interior Jet/Jet
ExteriorPaint   Orkney Grey (949)
AirConditioning   Air conditioning(IHKA)
InteriorFabric   Leather Oxford Windsor
Emission   Stage V with DPF
Engine   4.4L DOHC DITC V8 Diesel 260PS
Transmission   Automatic TM
Drive   RHD
 Cam

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My first post on here. I picked up my 2012 Westminster at the weekend and I am now embarking on a list of jobs!

The first is the Tow bar. It has the factory fitted kit including all electrics and it also has the swan neck tucked away in the boot, but I am missing the vertical receiver! Not sure why anybody would remove that piece from the car, but it is proving difficult to find one without the swan neck.

Any ideas? 2012 TDV8 Westminster Santorini Black

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rjff



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Morning Cam

I think there is a clour code reference on the car, under the bonnet but can't remember exactly where. Give Duckworths a call and ask to speak to Rob, I think. He's the contact for the forum. If you give him your VIN he should be able to confirm the colour and send you a build sheet. About the PS reading, mine's the same so he could confirm the power.

On a positive note it does loook as if the tow electrics were fitted at build.

DaveC69,
It may help if you start a new thread for your part. If TA and I reply to each other your enquiry may get overlooked. If it helps, receiver and swan neck seem to be supplied as a unit so you would have to be lucky to get only the receiver. I think PF Jones have them in stock but they're near £300 new. You could get a farmers' hitch new from them or S/H on ebay if you need to tow or until you source a receiver. PFJ seem cheapest for that, some LR specialist suppliers are looking for huge sums for them.

And introduce yourself on the General forum and and stick up some piccies or it didn't happen Thumbs Up Cheers
Richard

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