Advertise on fullfatrr.com »

Home > In Car Electronics (L322) > HELP: CD changer retrofit
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 2 of 3 <123>
Print this entire topic · 
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

The only unit that is missing is the DSP, which gets called an amp, but isn't. It only contains crossovers for the speakers and sound signal processing. The amps for the speakers are in the BM54 radio module. The speaker outs are on the plug on your diagram. If the DSP is present, it identifies itself on the iBus and appears on the screen as an option. It feeds the many speaker channels on the high line system. The radio module feeds it the signals from the selected source.

If the DSP is not there, the radio module drives the speakers directly. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #290810 5th Nov 2014 5:18am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
miggit



Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 3657

United Kingdom 

Hiya bud, well you learn a new thing every day! So the Amp isn't, it's an equaliser / crossover, and the power amp bit comes from the radio (bm54) head, talk about confusing. Do you think that the descriptions were written in English, translated in to Chinese, then into French before being translated back into English ? It's techno Chinese whispers Very Happy
Yesterday I learnt how to get my box brownie images on to the web Thumbs Up Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

Post #290875 5th Nov 2014 11:05am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Yea, the power amp IC's are in the BM54, which also houses the radio circuits.

Thats why there are posts about the BM54 Stage 2 amp upgrade, which I have had. It is a bit confusing, but prob easier for the general masses to call the DSP the DSP Amp as the speakers are connected to it, not the BM54 in high line systems.

Otherwise, as you said, there would be no amplification in cars without DSP.......

The amp really is the weak link in the system fitted. It always sounded a bit flat to me, even with DSP. Upgraded it can turn the speakers inside out. Really wakes it up.

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #290882 5th Nov 2014 11:33am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

Sorry for the late reply. Bad weather and an unexpected trip to the ospital did not allow me to dismantle my "Kitten from Ipanema (sand)".

So, after all, the CD wiring is there, and... SURPRISE!

Click image to enlarge


This puts me in the pleasant position to get a BMW CD changer with MP3 capability, correct?

Also, see the below pictures of the BM54 and of the attached box (supposed analog TV). Can you deduce anything form the pictures?

Click image to enlarge


Click image to enlarge


Click image to enlarge


The label on the supposed TV box says:

LAND ROVER YIL000022
- bar code -
037138080 002844 01
LEAR HW:06/SW15 21031
Nennspaung 12V Made in Germany

Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green

Post #293513 16th Nov 2014 5:55pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

I can tell you that all the BM54s floating about are the same. The differing part numbers just change as the firmware installed is updated at manufacture.

I understand a later bmw cd changer will play mp3s but they can be a bit pricey on the ebay unless you get lucky.

It should identify itself on the iBus and appear as a source.

The only bit I'm not to sure about, is I seem to remember that the screen will show you the title of the MP3 track playing, but only if you have the later version of firmware on the bm54..... Which you prob don't have, but they will still play though.....

......it's the bm54 or the mk4 sat Nav you need to see text on the screen, I just can't remember which......

...off to research now.....

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #293519 16th Nov 2014 6:14pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Ah, here you go, you need the mk4 nav if you want to see the titles of the mp3s on the screen.

http://www.roverupgrades.com/Range_Rover_MP3_Cd_Changer.html

Will work fine without though......

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport


Last edited by mjdronfield on 16th Nov 2014 6:32pm. Edited 1 time in total

Post #293520 16th Nov 2014 6:18pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

mjdronfield wrote:
I can tell you that all the BM54s floating about are the same. The differing part numbers just change as the firmware installed is updated at manufacture.

I understand a later bmw cd changer will play mp3s but they can be a bit pricey on the ebay unless you get lucky.

It should identify itself on the iBus and appear as a source.

The only bit I'm not to sure about, is I seem to remember that the screen will show you the title of the MP3 track playing, but only if you have the later version of firmware on the bm54..... Which you prob don't have, but they will still play though.....

......it's the bm54 or the mk4 sat Nav you need to see text on the screen, I just can't remember which......

...off to research now.....

Thumbs Up


Thank you Mjdronfield.

Actually, I'm in the lucky position to buy a genuine BMW CD/MP3 changer for 70£... so I think I'm gonna give it a go. Thumbs Up

http://www.ebay.it/itm/251718616770?ssPage...Track=true



BTW, are we sure that the third module in my boot is the analog TV tuner?

Post #293523 16th Nov 2014 6:24pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Yil000022 is the analogue tv unit, with the White and blue connectors and the 2 connectors for the tv aerials.

It is nearest to the rear seats in the boot, with the bm54 sort of below it and harder to reach.

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #293526 16th Nov 2014 6:40pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

Understood... today, when I removed the BM 54, I thought "such a small size for a cheeky little b Censored d that causes so much trouble"... Mr. Green

BTW... hav you checked the link in my last post? Is that MP3 CD changer good to be bought?

Post #293529 16th Nov 2014 6:53pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

The cd itself looks good, but you will need to check that the connector matches the connector in the car, as I can't see a picture of it in the ebay advert.

Possibly best to ask the seller to make sure......

Thumbs Up 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #293533 16th Nov 2014 7:03pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

Uhm... Actually in the link there is a second picture with the connector... looks ok to me, doesn't it? Question

Post #293537 16th Nov 2014 7:08pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Yes I saw that, but I understand some have round pins and some have flat. That is the extent of my knowledge I'm afraid. I don't know when each were used. Can't really see the pins in the advert..... Can you ?

A friend of mine fitted one in his BMW M5 and he didn't have any issues connecting it, so I may be thinking of the older units, in which case it will work fine. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #293539 16th Nov 2014 7:15pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
mjdronfield



Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7635

United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Ignore me, I am talking rubbish. It should be fine. The differing pins are at the radio end, and are for the older models, of which ours are not.

http://www.bimmernav.com/bmw_mp3_cd_changer.html

Pictures on the above link once more.... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport


Last edited by mjdronfield on 16th Nov 2014 7:24pm. Edited 1 time in total

Post #293542 16th Nov 2014 7:22pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

Well... I'll contact the seller l, let's hear what he says about the pins...

Post #293543 16th Nov 2014 7:23pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
J. C.



Member Since: 29 Oct 2014
Location: Padova
Posts: 38

Italy 2002 Range Rover HSE Td6 Ipanema Sand

Bought. Cool

Post #293548 16th Nov 2014 7:33pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 2 of 3 <123>
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
fullfatrr.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site