Large Golf. I like that comparison. Golf's are very nice ! Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

I'm traumatised to see the toe rag suffers some similar issues to the FF

These are taken from a similar forum ...

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These are not budget Cars
Touaregs were expensive when new and they can be very expensive to repair. These are not cars for someone on a tight budget. Engines and gearboxes can run away with £5,000 each. The V10 engine costs over £10,000 and it takes 30 hours to remove and replace it.
There are next to no VW specialists serving the Touareg community. There are plenty for your Polo, Golf or Passat, but definitely not for the Touareg [some don't even have car lifts man enough to lift 2.5 tons] so you are probably going to be in the hands of main dealers and their labour rates. But even here there are few dealers recommended for their Touareg knowledge but at least they may have the right tools to do the repairs!
Unlike Land Rover where you have an excellent choice of independents AND alternative sources for parts, with the Touareg most of the bits have to be sourced from VW and you can either pay dealer prices [sometimes things are very reasonable, sometimes not!] or use one of the motor factors who offer decent discounts.
And don't think that if you are buying new or nearly new, VW dealers are going to roll out the red carpet as you buy one of their top of the range cars. They don't. And VW GB don't give a sh"t either even if you have a serious problem with a brand new car!

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Valve chest
Judder when auto box changes down from 5th to 4th gear under load. The 5th to 4th clunk is a well known gearbox problem requiring a new valve chest at about £1900 at the VW dealer or half that price if you go to an independent who refurbishes them. Lots have had it done at 60-90K.

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Prop shaft mounting
Vibration felt under centre console storage bin area. VW will only replace full shaft at £1500.

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Suspension
If equipped with air suspension, look for corrosion around the brass pneumatic fittings which are prone to corrosion and failure

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Headlight
The T1 has a mechanism that clips the whole headlight into place. It needs to be released with a fairly hefty twist using a special tool on a hex nut mounting. Over exuberant twisting can snap or shear the mounting and the whole headlight tray will need replacing in a bumper off job. Check that the mounting is intact. The T2 has a different system.

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Air con / climate control
Listen to the HVAC system - any repeated clicking noises may cost you £500 for taking the dashboard apart to replace a £60 heater flap servo motor.

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Rust
The front wings are made of plastic. On a sunny day if you look up and under the wing you'll see they are translucent!
However, the rear doors are made of steel and there have been reports of rust.
Open the rear doors and look for bubbling under the paint on the curved inside edge that sits on the door rubbers.

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Water Retention
There are five areas where you may find water problems.
1. The sun roof drains can block.
2. The bulkhead drains can block with leaves over time. It is easy to check by putting a hose at the bottom of the windscreen and seeing if water runs of of the front wheel arches where the drains emerge. If not it take 30 minutes to remove the wheel arch linings, pull the rubber drain bungs and clean the drains out on each side. NOTE that if the blockage is not cleared water can ingress through the pollen filter on the passenger bulkhead and run under the carpet where it can seriously damage ECUs and electrics down there so lift and check the underside of the carpet is dry! If not, get the pollen filter out and see if that it wet as well.
3. When you accelerate or brake you may hear water sloshing to and fro. This is a very easy fix. There are three grommets in each of the cills the run along under the doors on each side of the car. Remove a grommet and the retained water will run out.
4. The air conditioning condensate pipe can block.
5. If someone has been mean with the screen wash during the winter, the pipe to the rear wash wipe can freeze and burst in the rear roof lining on the driver's side between the rear door and the tailgate. Open the hatch and look up and to the right for water stains. It's a known problem and cost about £100 for a dealer to drop the lining and fix it. I recommend VW dealer as inexperienced hands may damage the one piece roof lining so in my opinion it is not worth the risk.

Maybe I wont be selling off my FF after all

Every car has issues. Most common cars get scrapped around 10-15 years old so you are going to get people moaning about things failing and needing replaced on all cars.

I know but rust ?

seriously 2007 cars rust ??

cant get my head round it.

I havnt had a car rust and need welding since before 2000.

I may just go back to an Audi S4 and be done with it

I can recommend a t5 transporter as they are excellent at everything also you get a 4wd version.
Plus galvanised body's

They are nice but Im not after a van Brian

Have a go before you laugh …

Most unreliable car I have ever owned was a VW Touareg, it had more issues than any Land Rover and I have got an old 300 TDI Disco I have owned for 16 years and that has had less problems than the 1 year of ownership of the VW, I know the old Golfs were built to survive a nuclear blast but the later stuff is not great in my opinion.
I did over 200k in a 2005 Disco 3 and other than silly warnings that went after switching it off and on, a alternator and a compressor I never had an issue and the next Disco 3 I bought in 2007 is still going without an issue, I have only had 1 fault (turbo actuator) on the FFRR in 75k and it is now 4 years old so I am either lucky or have got Wednesdays cars lol I found the Touareg was a hard ride on the straights and rolled in the bends like a FFRR so you got the worst of 2 worlds, I now have a (please don't shout at me) BMW X5 which I personally think is a great car, absolute rubbish off road but I bought it to transport 7 people and their luggage down to my static caravan in comfort (yes the ride is a little hard but not as bad a the Touareg) due to the boot space being to small with 7 seats up in the Disco 3, if you want a on road car that is big and well built with the security of 4 wheel drive for the winter I think the X5 is hard to beat (I am going to get such a slagging now) and a much better choice than the Touareg

Honestly chaps...this is FANTASTIC feedback....

I really like the new toerag too. Not heard a single complaint on the VW forum I checked out. Always subjective I know but good to see comparison. Maybe I'll head back to an A8...

Better the devil you know ?

or as my mechanic says "yeah they are nice, but they're not a rangey" Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

Have no experience with the new Touareg but after working for Volkswagen for nine years I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

Tyres every 10k miles, expensive when they go wrong to fix, V10 is lovely but 24 hours labour to replace a power steering pump or alternator! As has been said prop bearings are common and only s complete prop available from VW.

Boot small for size of vehicle. I looked into buying one and spoke to a lot of people who advised against even as I used to work for VW and can get things done at cost.

Only seen one new one and thought it was better, no idea on reliability but still going to be expensive.

I wouldn't. Alex

2018 Skoda Kodiaq vRS
2009 Caterham Supersport Race car
2007 M5 Touring
2005 Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharged
2004 SL55 AMG

Thats another nail in the coffin for the 'Touareg' idea then.

I did consider the X5 idea a while back and asked the forum about it, that didnt turn out well either

ok - just throwing this one in for a minute......Disco 3 or 4 ? or a remapped freelander ? Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

Have you considered the Ssanyong Musso?  2006 4.2 SC
2019 Renault Zoe Dynamique Nav

LoL if the FF is going I aint replacing it with another LR

Gonna go back to the X5 idea and do some more digging on it.

I cant accept that FF's are the only machine fit for ones lifestyle

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Have you considered the Ssanyong Musso?